Originally posted by menace71
Basically that because at the beginning of the big bang it was like a black hole where times stands still or does not exist and that before the big bang there was not time therefore not enough time for a creator to create the universe. However what he fails to see is that (for those who believe in a creator) the creator is said to be eternal and outside of ...[text shortened]... r the creator. Not that the creator does not recognize and see the passing of events.
Manny
Basically that because at the beginning of the big bang it was like a black hole where times stands still or does not exist and that before the big bang there was not time therefore not enough time for a creator to create the universe.
So this is "what Stephen Hawkins [
sic] said on that show". That has to be the worst synopsis ever. I still love you, though, Manny.
By the way, if God is as you claim "outside of time", then how does He ever act or causally effect anything? The problem with respect to action is this: actions are events; but events occur in time. The problem with respect to causal efficacy is this: events are what cause other events; but events occur in time.
I see that, although you claim God is outside of time, you also say "Not that the creator does not recognize and see the passing of events". But if God is involved in events, then in what sense is He outside of time? What does talk of time reduce to, in your opinion, if not to talk of events/changes (if you think it reduces at all)?