Originally posted by RJHindsYes, the idea that space has these kinds of properties is just some weird made-up idea that scientists trot out to explain other weird ideas. Whereas the idea that some magical sky fairy somehow created the world; somehow made man from dirt, woman from a rib; etc; etc; these ideas are not weird or made-up at all.
Have you ever seen anyone stretch space? The Holy Bible says God
stretched out the heavens, not space. God made the heavens, He did
not make empty space. So you need to stop paying attention to these
ignorant scientist, who make up wierd things to explain their weird
ideas. Space is not pliable or stretchable like putty.
Originally posted by LemonJelloThat's right.
Yes, the idea that space has these kinds of properties is just some weird made-up idea that scientists trot out to explain other weird ideas. Whereas the idea that some magical sky fairy somehow created the world; somehow made man from dirt, woman from a rib; etc; etc; these ideas are not weird or made-up at all.
Originally posted by twhiteheadThis is basically what Stephen Hawkins said almost verbatim
Not at all. You expect everyone to be a mind reader and know what you mean when you don't actually say what you mean.
[b]So when God created the heavens and the earth, He created
the clock to tell time and in effect created time.
So how can you (or God) know whether or not he existed before the heavens and the earth if there was no clock to tell ...[text shortened]... st you say there was no time before the creation, now you say there was time. Which is it?[/b]
Manny
Originally posted by RJHindsActually Space or void still has substance and according to Einstein space and time are interwoven. Mass / Gravity warps (Stretches) Space and this was proven. This does not militate against a creator however.
Have you ever seen anyone stretch space? The Holy Bible says God
stretched out the heavens, not space. God made the heavens, He did
not make empty space. So you need to stop paying attention to these
ignorant scientist, who make up wierd things to explain their weird
ideas. Space is not pliable or stretchable like putty.
Manny
Originally posted by menace71I must disagree with Einstein if he said such a thing. I respect Einstein as
Actually Space or void still has substance and according to Einstein space and time are interwoven. Mass / Gravity warps (Stretches) Space and this was proven. This does not militate against a creator however.
Manny
a great scientist; but maybe you are misunderstanding him. We have plenty
of space around us all the time and no one has ever proven that mass /
gravity warps (stretches) space. THIS IS ONLY A THEORY LIKE THE THE
THEORY OF EVOLUTION.
Originally posted by RJHindsAnd a theory is the ultimate stage of an idea in science, so using the word 'only', only shows your ignorance of scientific terminology.
THIS IS ONLY A THEORY LIKE THE THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION.
Your view of space however is based entirely on faith. Did God tell you about it or is it your own invention?
Originally posted by twhiteheadI am not an inventor and I am only interested in common sense terminology.
And a theory is the ultimate stage of an idea in science, so using the word 'only', only shows your ignorance of scientific terminology.
Your view of space however is based entirely on faith. Did God tell you about it or is it your own invention?
Originally posted by RJHindsCommon sense terminology only applies to a very small part of creation; it falls apart at the macro amd microlevels of matter.
I am not an inventor and I am only interested in common sense terminology.
You should not limit yourself so - and if there is a god (lol) you are dishonouring his creation by not considering the wonder of it all.
Maybe that is a problem with all theists ... they fail to appreciate how wonderful and amazing the universe really is and through ignorance have to make up superstitious nonsense to explain fairly trivial phenomena (such as rainbows and stars).
Originally posted by RJHindsWell then stop talking about science because you not only don't understand the terminology, but don't want to understand it.
I am not an inventor and I am only interested in common sense terminology.
When you take a scientific term and use your own interpretation of the word (because you are not interested it its real meaning) and then make statements about it (such as saying 'it is only a theory'😉 then you are only making yourself look foolish.
But worst of all, you don't even understand enough English to realise that 'theory' has several meanings even in non-scientific contexts.
Originally posted by wolfgang59If you really appreciated how wonderful and amazing the universe really is
Common sense terminology only applies to a very small part of creation; it falls apart at the macro amd microlevels of matter.
You should not limit yourself so - and if there is a god (lol) you are dishonouring his creation by not considering the wonder of it all.
Maybe that is a problem with all theists ... they fail to appreciate how wonderful an ...[text shortened]... make up superstitious nonsense to explain fairly trivial phenomena (such as rainbows and stars).
you would give credit to the creator of it all by honoring Him.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI know enough english and science to know a "theory" is not "fact".
Well then stop talking about science because you not only don't understand the terminology, but don't want to understand it.
When you take a scientific term and use your own interpretation of the word (because you are not interested it its real meaning) and then make statements about it (such as saying 'it is only a theory'😉 then you are only making your ...[text shortened]... gh English to realise that 'theory' has several meanings even in non-scientific contexts.
Originally posted by RJHindsNobody claimed it was. You show your ignorance of the word by trying to differentiate the two.
I know enough english and science to know a "theory" is not "fact".
A theory is not 'only' a theory. It is also not 'less than a fact'. It is something else.
But I wont bother going through all the different meanings of the word in various contexts, because you are not interested unless its "common sense terminology", but you will never know whether or not it is "common sense terminology" until you learn it.