What will be the fuel?

Originally posted by @fmf
You have been banging on about stuff like non-Christians being hung out on chains - in flames - forever - for as long as I have been here.

Why don't you just scream out for Divegeester to come and help you out?

HELP ! DIVEGEESTER! HELP ME !!

Try that.

Would a Creator of the universe possibly have characteristics of personhood?

If not WHY not ?

Originally posted by @sonship
Why don't you just scream out for Divegeester to come and help you out?

What are you on about?

Help me out with what?

Originally posted by @sonship
Do you think that Creating Agent would in any way manifest the characteristics of Personhood ?

I don't know.

Originally posted by @fmf
I don't know.

Is " I don't know " your rote and dogmatic answer for uncomfortable questions?

Originally posted by @fmf
What are you on about?

Help me out with what?

Help you out with emotionalism.
That is emotionalism instead of rationale replies to simple questions.

Ie.

Me:
What characteristics might a Creator manifest?

You:
"Uh ... Don't forget chains and torture. chains and torture."

Originally posted by @fmf
I don't know.

What would you believe is more likely if you don't know?

Would a originating Creator possess some characteristics of personhood?

Originally posted by @sonship
Is " I don't know " your rote and dogmatic answer for uncomfortable questions?

No, it's an honest and personal answer that doesn't resort to speculation. Neither you nor I know the answers to the questions about the age and origin of the universe. What's more, I don't find the question uncomfortable, I don't find not knowing the answer uncomfortable, and I don't find it uncomfortable to admit that I do not know the answer.

Originally posted by @fmf
You gave me three options. I already picked no.1. You're now saying I should pick no.3?

You timidly leaned towards #1.
I don't have the right to what might be an alternative choice among the three ?

Isn't that kind of dogmatic of you?
You're tentatively committed to one answer but cannot indicate another possibility.

So you will not even entertain that you might be wrong?
You know no alternative could possibly be to an uncreated and ever existing universe?

Were you saying something about stifling curiosity ??

Originally posted by @sonship
What would you believe is more likely if you don't know?

Would a originating Creator possess some characteristics of personhood?

I don't know the answer to your question. I don't have a belief about what "is more likely" in the same way as I don't have a belief about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Same. Don't know. Both. "Some characteristics?" I don't know. "How many angels?" I don't know.

Originally posted by @sonship
You timidly leaned towards #1.
I don't have the right to what might be an alternative choice among the three ?

I told you I don't know the age or the origin of the universe ~ neither of us does. You gave me three options. I opted for no.1. There. That's your thought exercise. I don't know if it's no.2. I don't know if it's no.3. I don't know if it's no.1.

Originally posted by @sonship
Were you saying something about stifling curiosity ??

I am curious about what people say about the age and the origin of the universe. My curiosity hasn't been "stifled" by the fact that I don't know the answers.

Originally posted by @fmf
No, it's an honest and personal answer that doesn't resort to speculation. Neither you nor I know the answers to the questions about the age and origin of the universe. What's more, I don't find the question uncomfortable, I don't find not knowing the answer uncomfortable, and I don't find it uncomfortable to admit that I do not know the answer.

I have not said I KNOW at least by personal observation.
I have not claimed you should either.
On that we are on equal footing.

Could it be possible that someone who was involved KNOWS and reveals the truth to us?

If so then we could or could not believe such an informer.

Right?
Not Right?

Could there be revelation of what we do not know personally, experiencially ?

Yes, there could be?
No , there could not be?

Originally posted by @sonship
You're tentatively committed to one answer but cannot indicate another possibility.

My answer to all three is 'I don't know'.

Originally posted by @sonship
So you will not even entertain that you might be wrong?

Of course I do. What on earth are you going on about?

Originally posted by @sonship
Could it be possible that someone who was involved KNOWS and reveals the truth to us?

It's possible. But I have no reason to believe that it's you.