Originally posted by Agerg Well if we're talking about an omniscient, omnipotent creator (and correct me if you refer to just any old creator entity) then there is no need for me to state what I would accept as evidence - such a being would already know. Moreover, given that any evidence presented so far has been insufficient, one of the following is true:
a) Such an entity withholds ...[text shortened]... e somehow (otherwise, by omnipotence, we have situation (a))
c) Such an entity doesn't exist
Or such a being has put all the evidence in front of you and you refuse to look at
it.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJay Or such a being has put all the evidence in front of you and you refuse to look at
it.
Kelly
This coming from someone who thinks eight people lived on a boat with a load of vegetarian dinosaurs a few thousand years ago whilst God flooded the entire planet killing everything is a trifle rich.
Originally posted by Proper Knob This coming from someone who thinks eight people lived on a boat with a load of vegetarian dinosaurs a few thousand years ago whilst God flooded the entire planet killing everything is a trifle rich.
Yep, I guess that makes you someone who believes everything came from nothing
and then after everything came from nothing it just connected itself in such away
that we have life and two people can talk to one another on computers. 🙂
Kelly
Originally posted by Proper Knob This coming from someone who thinks eight people lived on a boat with a load of vegetarian dinosaurs a few thousand years ago whilst God flooded the entire planet killing everything is a trifle rich.
Lol, from some who believes that life is the product of inanimate matter cooked up in a
pre biotic soup which diversified into fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals, not
to mention plants and that said fish walked out of the water and started to breath, talk
and become rational is more trifle rich than a trifle factory near trifleingham which
specialises in brandy soaked tiramisu trifle cakes!
Originally posted by KellyJay Yep, I guess that makes you someone who believes everything came from nothing
and then after everything came from nothing it just connected itself in such away
that we have life and two people can talk to one another on computers. 🙂
Kelly
just to clarify so you dont make the same mistake again - atheist do not believe the universe came from nothing.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie Lol, from some who believes that life is the product of inanimate matter cooked up in a
pre biotic soup which diversified into fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals, not
to mention plants and that said fish walked out of the water and started to breath, talk
and become rational is more trifle rich than a trifle factory near trifleingham which
specialises in brandy soaked tiramisu trifle cakes!
the difference is, evolution from inanimate matter is improbable and noahs ark is impossible.
Originally posted by menace71 I just can't accept this all happened by chance or accident. I think it's mathematically impossible. If one of the 4 (5) fundamental forces of the universe were different we would not exist. If the solar system were different we would not exist. Too close to our star we fry too far we freeze. Our natural satellite right distance and helps provide tides an ...[text shortened]... niverse doesn't play dice" The universal equation of everything is God I believe.
the goldilocks argument doesnt work. imagine if there was a earth lottery where everybody entered to win money. 7 billion people enter and you win. would you refuse to accept you won on the basis it was highly improbable that the condition for you to win happened?
Originally posted by KellyJay Yep, I guess that makes you someone who believes everything came from nothing
and then after everything came from nothing it just connected itself in such away
that we have life and two people can talk to one another on computers. 🙂
Kelly
Originally posted by robbie carrobie Lol, from some who believes that life is the product of inanimate matter cooked up in a
pre biotic soup which diversified into fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals, not
to mention plants and that said fish walked out of the water and started to breath, talk
and become rational is more trifle rich than a trifle factory near trifleingham which
specialises in brandy soaked tiramisu trifle cakes!
That's right Rob, and i came to conclusion after reading numerous books on the topic and evaluating the evidence with my own mind. Remember, this was something you professed to do until it was discovered that you actually did no such thing. Not only did you do no such thing, you have no intention of doing any such thing.
Originally posted by stellspalfie the goldilocks argument doesnt work. imagine if there was a earth lottery where everybody entered to win money. 7 billion people enter and you win. would you refuse to accept you won on the basis it was highly improbable that the condition for you to win happened?
Except when you are applying said odds to life starting from non-living material
you just granted it is possible when you do not know that for a fact. You also
don't know for a fact that life changed from a one cell into all the life we see
today, but people put odds on as if its a sure thing.
Kelly
Originally posted by stellspalfie just to clarify so you dont make the same mistake again - atheist do not believe the universe came from nothing.
Where do you think everything came from, since its been dated as its so old that
means it had a beginning, or do you instead of calling God one who lives forever
now claim the universe does?
Kelly
Originally posted by Proper Knob This coming from someone who thinks eight people lived on a boat with a load of vegetarian dinosaurs a few thousand years ago whilst God flooded the entire planet killing everything is a trifle rich.
Making fun of my beliefs don't excuse yours.
Kelly
What would you accept as evidence of a creator?
02 Oct '12 07:46
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