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Absolutely nothing is wrong with me.
I love the Bible. Is that so bad?
I believe in CREATION. Is that so bad?
Some of you think the Bible is wrong.
Some of you don't even read the Bible.
Most of you cannot tell me why you
think that the Bible is wrong.
Practically all of you believe in the THEORY of evolution.
YOU TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG.
You all need a reality check, and believe me, as
sure as your typing at your computers. The day
is coming. Whoooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I can hardly wait.
For those who don't believe, I pray for you, and
your families.
C'mon guys THINK.
It's not that hard.

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OKAY, IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO TRY AND THINK ABOUT
CREATION OR EVEN READ THE BOOK OF GENESIS

then do this:

READ THE BOOK OF REVELATION.

The truth lies there.

If you DO NOT believe then the days ahead will become darker.

Did they not for Pharoh?

I'll make it easy..that was from the Ten Commandments

with Charleton Heston.

IT WAS NOT FICTION

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Originally posted by Nosrac
Absolutely nothing is wrong with me.
I love the Bible. Is that so bad?
I believe in CREATION. Is that so bad?
Some of you think the Bible is wrong.
Some of you don't even read the Bible.
Most of you cannot tell me why you
think that the Bible is wrong.
Practically all of you believe in the THEORY of evolution.
YOU TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG.
You all need ...[text shortened]... don't believe, I pray for you, and
your families.
C'mon guys THINK.
It's not that hard.
Is loving the bible wrong? No.
Is believing in creation wrong? No.

Iv'e told you why the bible cannot be 'literally' true - there are numerous errors and inconsistencies.

1.
I Kings 7:23-26 (II Chronicles 4:2-5)
23Then he made the molten sea; it was round, ten cubits from brim to brim, and five cubits high. A line of thirty cubits would encircle it completely.

Incorrect since this gives a value of 3 for pi.

2.
Numbers 3:21-34
Addition of male members of three clans of Levi show 7500 + 8600 + 6200 to be equal to 22000. Wrong again - it's 22300.

3.
I Chronicles 3:22
The sons of Shemaiah: Huttush, Igal, Bariah, Neriah, and Shaphat, six.
I count 5 sons, what about you?

Shall I go on?

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Originally posted by Nosrac
OKAY, IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO TRY AND THINK ABOUT
CREATION OR EVEN READ THE BOOK OF GENESIS

then do this:

READ THE BOOK OF REVELATION.

The truth lies there.

If you DO NOT believe then the days ahead will become darker.

Did they not for Pharoh?

I'll make it easy..that was from the Ten Commandments

with Charleton Heston.

IT WAS NOT FICTION
What, movies wth Charlton Heston are real?
So, we're going to die out and the world will be run by intelligent apes?
Damn, I though that was just a story!

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Originally posted by amannion
Right ... and?
What about the fossil record?

There are gaps in it?
Well whoopee do! Of course there are gaps in it. Fossilisation does not occur every time something dies.
Do gaps in the fossil record mean gaps in evolution?
Uh uh.
Evolution is not tied to fossils. The theory doesn't even require that there be fossils. They just happen to be the ici ...[text shortened]... ular interpretations of the existing fossils, but so what? Give me a better interpretation ...
Wow! Do you even understand/know the claims of the Neo-Darwinian TOE that you adhere to? Such claims need corroborating physical proof or you are in exactly the same boat as the creationist. You might think your theory is more appealing due to your philosophical presuppositions, but without physical evidence there is no way of distinguishing which actually happened.

Simply amazing: The theory doesn't even require fossils? Great! Now we can make up theories that don't need to be proven. Your ludicrous claims have eroded your fanciful stance into nothing more that conjecture. What was that about critical thinking? Don't make me laugh.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
changes keeping man as man?

There are, on average, 40 mutations every time the genome is replicated. Most of these do nothing. Most are deleterious. Some change a gene, buthave no effect on it's function.

How could 40 changes, some of which cause horrible genetic conditions be "keeping man as man"??
Fine thee are on average, 40 mutations everytime the genome
is replicated. Yet isn't it part of your belief system that says that
over time the good changes add up and this causes new systems,
new creatures over time through the evolutionary process? You
are okay telling me that you believe that because you have seen
money add up, I want to know why reject the other choice I gave
you, since you did pick the one you did.
Kelly

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Originally posted by Halitose
Wow! Do you even understand/know the claims of the Neo-Darwinian TOE that you adhere to? Such claims need corroborating physical proof or you are in exactly the same boat as the creationist. You might think your theory is more appealing due to your philosophical presuppositions, but without physical evidence there is no way of distinguishing which actually ...[text shortened]... nto nothing more that conjecture. What was that about critical thinking? Don't make me laugh.
I beg your pardon?
Please explain to me where I indicated the theory doesn't require proof?

Of course it does, and the fossil record provides one part of that proof, but it stands without it. Darwin was able to bring together a range of evidence without any resort to fossils.
Our analysis of fossils today only serves to add to the existing proofs of the theory.

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Originally posted by amannion
Is loving the bible wrong? No.
Is believing in creation wrong? No.

Iv'e told you why the bible cannot be 'literally' true - there are numerous errors and inconsistencies.

1.
I Kings 7:23-26 (II Chronicles 4:2-5)
23Then he made the molten sea; it was round, ten cubits from brim to brim, and five cubits high. A line of thirty cubits would encircle it ...[text shortened]... Igal, Bariah, Neriah, and Shaphat, six.
I count 5 sons, what about you?

Shall I go on?
1.
I Kings 7:23-26 (II Chronicles 4:2-5)
23Then he made the molten sea; it was round, ten cubits from brim to brim, and five cubits high. A line of thirty cubits would encircle it completely.

Incorrect since this gives a value of 3 for pi.

Nowhere in this passage is pi specifically designated. This is giving a measurement using the standards of the day. In fact, had the passage provided 3.14... instead of what was contemporaneously used, more than a few eyebrows would be raised.

2.
Numbers 3:21-34
Addition of male members of three clans of Levi show 7500 + 8600 + 6200 to be equal to 22000. Wrong again - it's 22300.

Here's one commentary on the "discrepancy," from Henry:

"They are computed in all 22,000, v. 39. The sum of the particular families amounts to 300 more; if this had been added to the sum total, the Levites, instead of being 273 fewer than the first-born, as they were (v. 43), would have been twenty-seven more, and so the balance would have fallen the other way; but it is supposed that the 300 which were struck off from the account when the exchange was to be made were the first-born of the Levites themselves, born since their coming out of Egypt, which could not be put into the exchange, because they were already sanctified to God."

3.
I Chronicles 3:22
The sons of Shemaiah: Huttush, Igal, Bariah, Neriah, and Shaphat, six.
I count 5 sons, what about you?

I count one, pluse five relatives. Don't take my word for it, though. Here's this from the Geneva Study Bible:

"I Chronicles 3: Geneva Study Bible
And the sons of Shechaniah; Shemaiah: and the sons of Shemaiah; Hattush, and Igeal, and Bariah, and Neariah, and Shaphat, g six.

(g) So that Shemaiah was Shechaniah’s natural son, and the other five his nephews and in all there were six."

Shall I go on?
I dunno. Do you really want to?

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Fine thee are on average, 40 mutations everytime the genome
is replicated. Yet isn't it part of your belief system that says that
over time the good changes add up and this causes new systems,
new creatures over time through the evolutionary process? You
are okay telling me that you believe that because you have seen
money add up, I want to know why reject the other choice I gave
you, since you did pick the one you did.
Kelly
Go on, read some simple genetics. Its interesting stuff.

I read bits of the bible when I want to check stuff. Why not learn a little science

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
[b]1.
I Kings 7:23-26 (II Chronicles 4:2-5)
23Then he made the molten sea; it was round, ten cubits from brim to brim, and five cubits high. A line of thirty cubits would encircle it completely.

Incorrect since this gives a value of 3 for pi.

Nowhere in this passage is pi specifically designated. This is giving a measurement using the sta ...[text shortened]... and in all there were six."

Shall I go on?
I dunno. Do you really want to?[/b]
I'm happy to if you like.
For my next trick I'll demonstrate the many inconsistencies in the Gospels.

That'll rock your christian socks ...

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Originally posted by amannion
I'm happy to if you like.
For my next trick I'll demonstrate the many inconsistencies in the Gospels.

That'll rock your christian socks ...
Dude. You should know by now, we all wear sandals. Just like Jesus.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Dude. You should know by now, we all wear sandals. Just like Jesus.
Good point, but if you're a complete dag, you'll wear socks with those sandals ...

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Originally posted by amannion
Good point, but if you're a complete dag, you'll wear socks with those sandals ...
Which color do you think would make one most dag-a-licious?

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Which color do you think would make one most dag-a-licious?
They've got to be white for sure.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Which color do you think would make one most dag-a-licious?
brown or green fluffy ones.

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