Originally posted by RJHindsSo where is Mount Sinai? Also, did they spend the entire four decades at Mount Sinai? If they did, did they magically transport themselves there (and away four decades later) so as not to leave a trail?
Galatians 4:25
New King James Version (NKJV)
[b]"Mount Sinai in Arabia" [/b]
Originally posted by RJHindsWhat I was getting at is that the 480 figure looks to me as if it is based on numerology rather than accurate record keeping. The dates we have for the Egyptian Pharaohs are pretty imprecise too.
It could be any of the Pharaohs for all I care. I am only interested in the date of the exodus according to the Holy Bible. Was Bishop Ussher's calculations right or could there be more years to go before we reach 6,000 years of human history? According to the Jews there is about 225 years more to go, but they admit not counting certain times.
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Originally posted by RJHindsIf the video answers my questions, then please tell me what the answers are.
The video answers your questions. A video is worth more than a thousand words.
This forum is a place for discussion/debate. If you wish to watch and discuss videos, there are places for that (for example youtube). This forum is not among those places.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtI believe this site Chronology of the Judges before the times of the Kings shows the 480 years is based on real time and not numerology as you suggest.
What I was getting at is that the 480 figure looks to me as if it is based on numerology rather than accurate record keeping. The dates we have for the Egyptian Pharaohs are pretty imprecise too.
http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-route-date-chronology-of-judges.htm
Originally posted by RJHindsHere is a timeline I found that seems to give close approximate dates (just a year off) to what we have:
I believe this site Chronology of the Judges before the times of the Kings shows the 480 years is based on real time and not numerology as you suggest.
http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-route-date-chronology-of-judges.htm
B.C.
1407 Moses dies; Joshua conquers Canaan
1400 Conquest of Canaan completed
1377 Akhnaton becomes pharaoh; inaugurates monotheistic reforms
1375 Othniel becomes judge
1319 Ehud becomes judge
1318 Rameses I founds the 19th dynasty in Egypt
1240 Deborah and Barak judge Israel
1194 Gideon becomes judge
1167 Eli born
1155 Abimelech usurps power in Israel
1152 Tola becomes judge
1131 Jair becomes judge
1109 Eli becomes priest
1105 Samuel born
1089 Jephthah becomes judge
1083 Ibzan becomes judge
1071 Elon becomes judge; Samson becomes judge
1069 Samuel begins to minister
1066 Abdon becomes judge
1043 Saul becomes king
1011 Saul and Jonathan slain; David becomes king of Judah
1004 David becomes king over all Israel
971 Solomon ascends the throne
966 Solomon begins to build the Temple in Jerusalem
http://www.bible-history.com/rome/RomeTimeline__Biblical_History.htm
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Bishop Ussher gave 2348 B.C. as his calculated date of the Flood. If we again subtract the 45 year time difference we had for the Exodus, then the adjusted date of the flood would be 2303 B.C.
The date of the beginning of the reign of the first king of China is given in wikipedia as King Yu in 2194 B.C. However, that would give only a little over a hundred years for a new civilization to arise to start building the tower of Babel and the confusing of the language by God. That does not seem to be enough time to have a high enough population.
The period before King Yu is spoken of as mythology and mentions a flood period, during the period of the Emperors, that could have started about a hundred years before. It credits the Great Yu as conquering the flood before he became king. I suppose the Great Yu is the same as King Yu. However this part is just mythology and does not give enough information about it in the wikipedia artcle.
Originally posted by RJHindsThe only hole in your theory is there was no world wide flood. Period. Floods did not carve out the Grand Canyon and there were no world wide floods in China either. NOBODY at that time could have seen a world wide flood and so what was written down about a flood in say, Pakistan or whatever it was called ATT, it would not have effected Australia or China.
Bishop Ussher gave 2348 B.C. as his calculated date of the Flood. If we again subtract the 45 year time difference we had for the Exodus, then the adjusted date of the flood would be 2303 B.C.
The date of the beginning of the reign of the first king of China is given in wikipedia as King Yu in 2194 B.C. However, that would give only a little over a hundr ...[text shortened]... is part is just mythology and does not give enough information about it in the wikipedia artcle.
Your evidence for a WW flood is ALL bogus, written by creationists who want to BEND whatever evidence they think they can find to fit their theory rather than seeking the truth of the matter.
And they call themselves scientists. That is a laugh, because you don't EVER go into a subject with a built in bias and NOBODY came into evolution with a built in bias, most of the scientists were nay sayers and got converted by looking at the unbiased evidence, totally unlike your creationist buddies who will outright lie, distort facts, and such to make people believe in creationism which is their goal since they thumb their nose at real science. They can have ten advanced degrees but if they come into a subject with the idea of proving ONE theory, they are not scientists, they are schlocks who should turn in their degrees and become bus drivers.
Originally posted by sonhouseYour so-called scientists haven't been able to find anything. All the real evidence of the Exodus has been found by Biblical explorers, because your so-called scientist are too dumb to look in the right place for the evidence.
The only hole in your theory is there was no world wide flood. Period. Floods did not carve out the Grand Canyon and there were no world wide floods in China either. NOBODY at that time could have seen a world wide flood and so what was written down about a flood in say, Pakistan or whatever it was called ATT, it would not have effected Australia or China. ...[text shortened]... y are not scientists, they are schlocks who should turn in their degrees and become bus drivers.
But you choose to remain willingly ignorant of the whole matter and mock the God of Heaven with your lies.
Originally posted by RJHindsI could give a rats ass about the exodus, so what when or if it happened. I said there was no WW flood. Period and all the mudslinging creationist video's from here to a thousand years from now won't change that fact.
Your so-called scientists haven't been able to find anything. All the real evidence of the Exodus has been found by Biblical explorers, because your so-called scientist are too dumb to look in the right place for the evidence.
But you choose to remain willingly ignorant of the whole matter and mock the God of Heaven with your lies.
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Originally posted by sonhouseJust because you say there was no worldwide flood does not make it so. There is much evidence for the worldwide flood and very little evidence against it. Even some seculsr scientists believe in evidence of a worldwide flood or at least a series of floods that covered most of the world. They just don't believe this happened as recently as the Holy Bible says.
I could give a rats ass about the exodus, so what when or if it happened. I said there was no WW flood. Period and all the mudslinging creationist video's from here to a thousand years from now won't change that fact.
Finding the Great Flood in Big Bend
Earth's 'underground oceans' could have three times more water than the surface
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/earths-underground-oceans-could-have-three-times-more-water-than-the-surface-9534266.html
Perhaps this is the source of the fountains of the great deep spoken of in the Holy Bible.