Originally posted by jaywilldon't get hysterical. it was customary for tribal war chiefs of barbarian hordes to get a share of the "booty." moses would have been no exception and given the proof that he actually expected his people to capture virgin girl slaves (after slaughtering their entire families in front of them), he would've gotten his share of the spoils of raiding.Num 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
moses liked his slaves, especially if they were young virgin girls. boo-yah!
Where were "his" personal slaves ? Which ones were Moses's ?
The tone of your slander is that Moses, due to his personal lust, had "his" ...[text shortened]... or even reasonably enlightening or educational from your McCarthyistic twistings.
but all this is a moot point. the point as has been proven repeatedly, is that the bible-god who could've put an end to human trafficking with but a single command rather decided to endorse and command slavery.
there is no argument you can bear that can change what is written in the bible concerning bible-gods (actually the ancient hebrew's, since bible-god is an invention) immorality.
Originally posted by robbie carrobiewow. i mean wow. it must take some olympian mental contortions to come up with that logic bomb.
yes its true, i am the pontifex maximus of all theists! and i thankyou for recognising it
as such! All you have is beliefs, why, because all you have is an evaluation with your
own mind, your beliefs. You cannot prove that there is no God, absence in your mind
of reason or empirical proof is no proof at all, therefore, you simply believe that ...[text shortened]... tity. Atheism is a total religion, it relies on unobserved phenomena and
beliefs, not proven.
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Originally posted by jaywilldon't get your panties in a bunch, we're not available to reply to your posts on your schedule.
[quote] Okay where were we? Sceptics playing the "Slavery Card" against Christians. Fine, let me allow you to do some homework.
In the oldest book of the Bible, the book of Job we have this utterance about God's attitude towards the slave and master. This post assumes the scholarship acceptance of the writing of the book of Job around 2000 BC, some five ble acts. And its attitude finds little if any correspondence in other ANE cultures.
job is not talking about slaves. you have made no argument to counter the proofs presented.
...and what is your argument, that hebrews treated slaves more humanly so it's okay?
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Originally posted by VoidSpiritYou should understand that even though God brought the Israelites
don't get your panties in a bunch, we're not available to reply to your posts on your schedule.
job is not talking about slaves. you have made no argument to counter the proofs presented.
...and what is your argument, that hebrews treated slaves more humanly so it's okay?
out of slavery with Moses as their leader, Moses did not understand
exactly what it was like to be a slave himself. Moses was the one
that made these rules, you see. However, he does show a certain
amount of compassion for them, which seems to be ahead of his
time, unless what is written in Job has anything to do with slavery.
It is not really an important question IMO. I believe we have come
to believe today that holding slaves is not a good idea, even if they
owe us money, haven't we?
P.S. It is what Jesus thinks is okay now, not Moses.
-Removed-Of course. I accept this completely. Indeed, an examination of the orgy of slaughter that we saw in the 20thC reveals little that can be pinned on "Christianity" per se. And, in the context of the millions and millions of corpses being piled up, Islam - per se - can almost be said to have sat it out as a contributing factor to the slaughter. While you have provided perspective - as did robbie, on reflection, a page or three ago - there is still the OP question, which can still be addressed with or without the context you have drawn our attention to.
Originally posted by FMFI have already answered that question for you along time ago.
Of course. I accept this completely. Indeed, an examination of the orgy of slaughter that we saw in the 20thC reveals little that can be pinned on "Christianity" per se. And, in the context of the millions and millions of corpses being piled up, Islam - per se - can almost be said to have sat it out as a contributing factor to the slaughter. While you have provi ...[text shortened]... ion, which can still be addressed with or without the context you have drawn our attention to.
I will repeat it in simple terms You can understand. It is Islam.
Originally posted by RJHindsAnd I will repeat my previous answer in simple terms so anymone can undestand: It is fundamentalism.
I have already answered that question for you along time ago.
I will repeat it in simple terms You can understand. It is Islam.
Fundamenatlism is the base of recruitment of terrorism. Without fundamentalism there wouldn't be any terrorism. Religion has nothing to do with it. There are christian terrorists, there are jewish terrorists, there are muslim terrorists. Christians denying this is christians accepting christian terrorism as good terrorism, and other terrorism as bad terrorism.
The key point is fundamentalism. It's just bad.
Originally posted by FabianFnasAnd there are atheist fundamentalists. Some are here on this site.
And I will repeat my previous answer in simple terms so anymone can undestand: It is fundamentalism.
Fundamenatlism is the base of recruitment of terrorism. Without fundamentalism there wouldn't be any terrorism. Religion has nothing to do with it. There are christian terrorists, there are jewish terrorists, there are muslim terrorists. Christians deny ...[text shortened]... rism, and other terrorism as bad terrorism.
The key point is fundamentalism. It's just bad.
Proof - they say that the world is better off without Christians.
Just like Dasa is a fundamentalist for saying that the world is better off without Muslims.
Originally posted by Rajk999Yes, you are right. There are religious fundamentalists, there are political fundamenatlists, there are patriotic fundamentalists, there are feministic fundamentalists, there are ... you name a group and you can find fundamentalists there too. And yes, there are atheistic fundamentalists.
And there are atheist fundamentalists. Some are here on this site.
Proof - they say that the world is better off without Christians.
Just like Dasa is a fundamentalist for saying that the world is better off without Muslims.
And terrorism recruit their terrorists from fundamentalist groups. Whichever best for their needs.
Originally posted by FabianFnasTherefore atheists fundamentalists can also be terrorists.
Yes, you are right. There are religious fundamentalists, there are political fundamenatlists, there are patriotic fundamentalists, there are feministic fundamentalists, there are ... you name a group and you can find fundamentalists there too. And yes, there are atheistic fundamentalists.
And terrorism recruit their terrorists from fundamentalist groups. Whichever best for their needs.