Originally posted by OmnislashAh...the glass is half empty.
Main Entry: seg·re·ga·tion
Pronunciation: "se-gri-'gA-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : the act or process of segregating : the state of being segregated
2 a : the separation or isolation of a race, class, or ethnic group by enforced or voluntary residence in a restricted area, by barriers to social intercourse, by separate educational facilities, or by other ...[text shortened]... viduals or items from a larger group <segregation of gifted children into accelerated classes>
Why not think of it as a con·gre·ga·tion!
Originally posted by rwingettSince atheism as a concept only exists in reaction to theism, I don't
My only point in all this is that the forum title, "Spirituality", along with the little halo symbol, seems to be weighted in favor of the theists. I would like to see a more neutral term.
see any title that could possibly be 'neutral.' That is, if theism didn't
exist, atheism wouldn't exist. Atheism is inextricably tied to theism;
as such, a 'religious discussion' is the only place atheism would ever
rear its head.
Would a question mark over the halo make more sense or something?
Or a title like 'Spirituality or lack thereof?'
Seriously, what sort of neutral title can exist? If there is one, I can't
fathom it I'm opened to the possibility.
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioThat questionmark is a great ide.
Since atheism as a concept only exists in reaction to theism, I don't
see any title that could possibly be 'neutral.' That is, if theism didn't
exist, atheism wouldn't exist. Atheism is inextricably tied to theism;
as such, a 'religious discussion' is the only place atheism would ever
rear its head.
Would a question mark over the halo make mo ...[text shortened]... itle can exist? If there is one, I can't
fathom it I'm opened to the possibility.
Nemesio
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Originally posted by NemesioI am raising the question as to whether the term "spirituality" is an appropriate title for the forum. It is possible that it could be construed as conveying an implicit acceptance of theism by RHP. But I do not have a proposed replacement.
Since atheism as a concept only exists in reaction to theism, I don't
see any title that could possibly be 'neutral.' That is, if theism didn't
exist, atheism wouldn't exist. Atheism is inextricably tied to theism;
as such, a 'religious discussion' is the only place atheism would ever
rear its head.
Would a question mark over the halo make mo ...[text shortened]... itle can exist? If there is one, I can't
fathom it I'm opened to the possibility.
Nemesio
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Originally posted by rwingettThe Spirituality Containment Facility would be a more accurate title, and would eliminate your concern about RHP's promotion of theism, which obviously doesn't exist.
I am raising the question as to whether the term "spirituality" is an appropriate title for the forum. It is possible that it could be construed as conveying an implicit acceptance of theism by RHP. But I do not have a proposed replacement.
This is my view on this. Since all you God botherer's could'nt / would'nt debate and play well with the others in the Debate forumae, Russ made the prudent descision to put you in your own sand pit where you can build evangelistic castles to your hearts content. The best part is we don't have to look at them. You had it coming because you ignored the signals (again) and whilst I dont always agree with what the mods / Russ do this was the correct action.
"Go tell it on the mountain......" - yes that one - away over there.
skeeter
Originally posted by skeeter"We don't have to look at them", yet here you are, as well as everyone else. This new forum seems to be a popular hangout.
This is my view on this. Since all you God botherer's could'nt / would'nt debate and play well with the others in the Debate forumae, Russ made the prudent descision to put you in your own sand pit where you can build evangelistic castles to your hearts content. The best part is we don't have to look at them. You had it coming because you ignored the sig ...[text shortened]... ct action.
"Go tell it on the mountain......" - yes that one - away over there.
skeeter
Under the old system it was pretty easy to tell if a post or thread would be religious, just from the title of the thread or handle of the poster. I don't see why it was hard to ignore before.
Adding this forum is more like adding a religious channel to your TV programming. Not only do allusions to religion remain on the other channels, but now you have an all-religion, all-the-time channel. Do you really think this is going to reduce the amount of religious activity on this site??
Originally posted by ivanhoeAnd you are without any blame in your version of the story? Is that how it goes?
I must conclude going over all the posts about this issue, that the negative contributions that lead to the creation of the "Spirituality" forum by debaters like Rwingett, no1maurauder and many others are simply ignored. You cannot understand events without looking at these contributions.
Originally posted by rwingett
And you are without any blame in your version of the story? Is that how it goes?
I had several quality conversations with no1 about his contributions, about his wanting to reserve privileges for himself which he didn't want to give to others. The same story applies to you.
Now you are babbling about whether the "Spirituality" forum has a name that is "neutral" enough. What are you worrying about ?
You are babbling about whether atheists are welcome to this forum. You are ..... on one condition: do not proselytise your freethought ideas here. I don't want you to push your ideas down my throat. You get the idea ? Don't force your atheist freethinker ideas on me ..... know what i'm saying, Rwingo ?
Originally posted by ivanhoeI seldom know what you're talking about, Ivanhoe. Your thought patterns are completely unintelligible to me.
I had several quality conversations with no1 about his contributions, about his wanting to reserve privileges for himself which he didn't want to give to others. The same story applies to you.
Now you are babbling about whether the "Spirituality" forum has a name that is "neutral" enough. What are you worrying about ?
You are babbling about whet ...[text shortened]... idea ? Don't force your atheist freethinker ideas on me ..... know what i'm saying, Rwingo ?
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Originally posted by rwingettAre you planning to spout your freethinker ideas in this forum ?
I seldom know what you're talking about, Ivanhoe. Your thought patterns are completely unintelligible to me.
Maybe it would be a good idea to create a "Freethought" forum to save us all from you spouting your ideas on the General and Spirituality forum, to prevent you from forcing your ideas upon us, Rwingo. If you insist on your flawed interpretation of separation of Church and State, I will insist on the equally flawed interpretation of separation of Freethought and State ..... but of course you do not know what I'm talking about, now do you Rwingo ?
You can have your Freedom of Speech but please exercise it where I cannot be bothered by it.
Originally posted by ivanhoeAs usual, it's been a complete waste of my time talking to you.
Are you planning to spout your freethinker ideas in this forum ?
Maybe it would be a good idea to create a "Freethought" forum to save us all from you spouting your ideas on the General and Spirituality forum, to prevent you from forcing your ideas upon us, Rwingo. If you insist on your flawed interpretation of separation of Church and State, I will ...[text shortened]... You can have your Freedom of Speech but please exercise it where I cannot be bothered by it.
Originally posted by rwingettActually, for once, ivanhoe is actually making sense. He is merely reacting to having his ideas segragated. All he is saying in a rather strange way can be put simply like thus: "How would you like your ideas segregated?"
As usual, it's been a complete waste of my time talking to you.
I don't agree with ivanhoe's ideas or even his discussion tactics, but that does not mean he deserves to be put in a cage, no matter how "equal" that cage is.
Down with the whiners.
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