1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    Do atheist consider Atheism a religion?
    I did not think they considered it a religion
    or were concerned about spirituality. So
    why are they on here? Does anyone know?
    If there are any atheist reading this, please
    get off of this forum and stop harassing us.
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    30 Mar '11 01:48
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Do atheist consider Atheism a religion?
    I did not think they considered it a religion
    or were concerned about spirituality. So
    why are they on here? Does anyone know?
    If there are any atheist reading this, please
    get off of this forum and stop harassing us.
    I'll stop harassing when nutters like you stop posting.
    And to clarify - this is the spirituality forum - not the 'I'm a raving lunatic who believes that god created the world in 6 days' forum, so as I continue to be interested in the spiritual, then I'll continue to post.
    As a return question I should ask you, why are you posting about science on a spirituality forum - there is another forum for science posts. Feel free to do so there and foist your rubbish onto others.
  3. Standard memberRJHinds
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    30 Mar '11 02:09
    Originally posted by amannion
    I'll stop harassing when nutters like you stop posting.
    And to clarify - this is the [b]spirituality
    forum - not the 'I'm a raving lunatic who believes that god created the world in 6 days' forum, so as I continue to be interested in the spiritual, then I'll continue to post.
    As a return question I should ask you, why are you posting about science on ...[text shortened]... other forum for science posts. Feel free to do so there and foist your rubbish onto others.[/b]
    Someone else stated this thing on evolution and I
    tried to finish it. I did not really want to discuss
    evolution when I came to this site. I thought there
    was going to be more discussions of things in the
    Holy Bible. I never dreamed evolution would pop up.
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    30 Mar '11 02:19
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Someone else stated this thing on evolution and I
    tried to finish it. I did not really want to discuss
    evolution when I came to this site. I thought there
    was going to be more discussions of things in the
    Holy Bible. I never dreamed evolution would pop up.
    Here's a suggestion. Start up your own Holy Bible thread and/or Forum and get to it.
    And enjoy ...
  5. Donationrwingett
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    30 Mar '11 02:25
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Do atheist consider Atheism a religion?
    I did not think they considered it a religion
    or were concerned about spirituality. So
    why are they on here? Does anyone know?
    If there are any atheist reading this, please
    get off of this forum and stop harassing us.
    Discussing spiritual matters doesn't mean you're obliged to discuss them in a positive light. If I tell you why your god is absurd, we're still discussing spiritual matters.

    For the record, though, this is about the 50th time this particular topic has come up in this forum.
  6. Standard memberRJHinds
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    30 Mar '11 02:30
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Discussing spiritual matters doesn't mean you're obliged to discuss them in a positive light. If I tell you why your god is absurd, we're still discussing spiritual matters.

    For the record, though, this is about the 50th time this particular topic has come up in this forum.
    If its come up that many time why can't you take the hint.
    Why must I be so blunt about it. Do I have to report this
    to the alert moderator or what? Disagreeing is one thing,
    but harrassing is another.
  7. Donationrwingett
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    30 Mar '11 02:46
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    If its come up that many time why can't you take the hint.
    Why must I be so blunt about it. Do I have to report this
    to the alert moderator or what? Disagreeing is one thing,
    but harrassing is another.
    I believe this is the first time I've ever responded to one of your posts.

    In any event, it is my right to respond to any post you make, and disagree with it if I see fit. You may complain to the moderators all you like. I don't believe it is their duty to protect your posts from criticism.
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    30 Mar '11 03:33
    Why are atheist on a spirituality Forum?

    You are of course correct.

    I am a 100% Atheist and am as happy as Harry.

    I often pop into here to make merry and have a wee gag at the Holy Joe's
    expense. All relgions if they are strong enough should be able to stand
    up to a few gags and laugh at themselves.

    After all God has been laughing at us since creation.

    But you are correct.

    I have no right to undermine anyone's belief especially if it gives them comfort.
    I shall cease as of this post from jumping into here in my bored moments
    to rattle the cages of spiritually enlightened.

    Good Luck and may your God, keep you safe.

    PS:

    This is going to be an awful dull forum if ALL the Atheists leave.
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    30 Mar '11 03:411 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I did not really want to discuss
    evolution when I came to this site.
    Then don't discuss it. You don't have to discuss things you don't want to discuss. Don't you think it's a little odd for you to ask people to stop discussing things you don't want to discuss?

    Do I have to report this to the alert moderator or what?

    What action do you imagine the moderators would take?
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    30 Mar '11 05:08
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    If its come up that many time why can't you take the hint.
    Why must I be so blunt about it. Do I have to report this
    to the alert moderator or what? Disagreeing is one thing,
    but harrassing is another.
    Please report it, or get over it.
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    30 Mar '11 05:54
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Do atheist consider Atheism a religion?
    No, most of us don't, but as we are a loosely defined group I cannot speak for everyone.

    I did not think they considered it a religion
    or were concerned about spirituality.

    Quite a few atheists consider themselves spiritual, and some of us are concerned about the spirituality of others and the effects it has on us. If your spirituality causes you to pass on misinformation about science, then it affects me. It is at its worst when 'spiritual people' try to get psudoscience taught in schools. That is how I originally came to this forum. I brought up the topic of teaching 'intelligent design' in debates and was told to to bring it to spirituality.

    So why are they on here? Does anyone know?
    I have told you why I came. I stayed for a number of reasons.
    1. I enjoy the discussions. 'Debates' is mostly about US politics which I have very little interest in, 'Science' is interesting but we rarely disagree about anything so it is mostly exchanging information.
    2. I sincerely believe that we can all learn from each other. I have learnt a lot here, even from Theists.

    If there are any atheist reading this, please
    get off of this forum and stop harassing us.

    I don't think I have harassed you. As far as I recall, I have only talked to you in threads about evolution, some of which you started and asked for comments from those who understand evolution and some of which you joined in of your own accord. In one thread you asked that we leave it be, and I believe we did.
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    30 Mar '11 06:01
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Do atheist consider Atheism a religion?
    I did not think they considered it a religion
    or were concerned about spirituality. So
    why are they on here? Does anyone know?
    If there are any atheist reading this, please
    get off of this forum and stop harassing us.
    My family is mostly Christian and I am an Atheist, yet we still manage to discuss spiritual matters without anyone feeling 'harassed' over it.

    I tell them right up front that I'm not out to convert them to atheism. I think that takes a lot of the pressure off.
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    30 Mar '11 06:35
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    No, most of us don't, but as we are a loosely defined group I cannot speak for everyone.

    [b]I did not think they considered it a religion
    or were concerned about spirituality.

    Quite a few atheists consider themselves spiritual, and some of us are concerned about the spirituality of others and the effects it has on us. If your spirituality causes ...[text shortened]... of your own accord. In one thread you asked that we leave it be, and I believe we did.[/b]
    Now, all of a sudden, you are a good little boy.
    And I suppose you never once called me dishonest.
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    30 Mar '11 07:59
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Now, all of a sudden, you are a good little boy.
    And I suppose you never once called me dishonest.
    I have several times called you dishonest, and I believe, rightly so. I have asked you several times to defend your statements that I claimed were dishonest but you have not done so. I do not think this makes me a bad little boy.
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    30 Mar '11 08:40
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Do atheist consider Atheism a religion?
    I did not think they considered it a religion
    or were concerned about spirituality. So
    why are they on here? Does anyone know?
    If there are any atheist reading this, please
    get off of this forum and stop harassing us.
    Our dear atheist friends need guidance, poor things need every scrap of scripture
    they can get their hands upon. They are sheep without a shepherd and we should
    be patient with them.

    I do understand your concerns though, for it has frustrated me at times as well, this
    constant non spirituality, this tearing down of another's faith with nothing
    substantive nor constructive having been proffered in its place. In the past we had
    some great discussions among those professing to be Christian, Jaywill and Epi,
    Manny, G-man, Rajk, Deucer, Zahlanzi and I had a mega discussions on the trinity,
    hell fire, Michael the archangel. the resurrection, the nature of the soul, Christs
    prophecy's, headship arrangement, the great flood etc etc and scriptures were
    being looked at in depth, the Greek and Hebrew text examined to find their nuances
    and how these have a bearing on our understanding.

    It should be noted that there are two types of Atheists, those which profess a
    spirituality in some form or another but no belief in God, from these are the
    Buddhists and others and those who are base materialists and who profess nothing
    and try to reduce everything to a materialistic explanation and see religion as an
    essentially destructive force, citing wars and assimilation of pagan cultures through
    conversion, decadence of organisations etc. The former are the most excellent, for
    one can find at least some common ground and exchange ideas and principles,
    these latter are the most bitter and inconsolable and need to be treated with a little
    caution for they are unable to see anything good from developing ones own
    spirituality.
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