26 Aug '22 11:21>2 edits
@kellyjay saidTruth is not causative of belief. The proof of that is that people believe all manner of falsehoods and even resist the truth when it is demonstrated to them with mountains of compellingly consistent evidence and sound arguments. So stop preaching about “truth is the only thing that matters.” Clearly it isn’t what matters.
I'm not missing the point; we can believe in anything, true or not, and we can have
many reasons that work for us that do not work for others. Some can come to
faith over a single sentence, one act, others a lifetime of evidence and experiences.
With the supernatural or other things we believe, the only thing that matters is if
it's true or not! What we put our faith ...[text shortened]... coming to faith about things, there is also
avoiding faith about things we may not want to be true.
We’re discussing here the psychological factors involved in forming beliefs, not whether the belief resulting from this process happens to be true, especially the sort of beliefs about which there is genuine doubt about what would constitute evidence for them. We’re not discussing beliefs like how many states there are in the USA or what the temp is in someone’s back yard; there is no doubt what would constitute evidence for those sorts of beliefs. There is genuine and well-founded doubt about what would constitute evidence for something which allegedly happened before and outside the universe, some supernatural causality.
How is it that a geologist looks at a fossil and believes it is hundreds of millions of years old, whereas a YEC looks at the same fossil and believes it is only about 6,000 years old? How do such radically incompatible beliefs form in two different minds? The fossil itself is the truth, but it is mute, so you cannot continue to claim that the truth is the only thing that matters when two people look at the same truth and come to incompatible beliefs about it. Clearly there are other factors than truth involved in belief formation. It is too easy to summarily dismiss the YEC position as stupid. There must be some other explanation for his belief.
Do you wish to contribute by THINKING about how beliefs are formed?