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-Removed-Jesus said nothing of the sort, the text is a claim to a pre human existence not to any
claim that he was God, you would know this if you could understand the text in the
original language, but you dont, that is why you persist with these ignorant assertions
based on nothing but a one dimensional preconceived dogmatic approach to scripture.
In other words you dont actually know what Jesus was saying, you have been asked to
demonstrate with reference to the original language text how you conclude that Christ
was claiming to be God and you have produced nothing, because you have no way of
knowing and yet here you are claiming to instruct others about what Christ meant
when you dont even know. How embarrassing, for you.
Originally posted by robbie carrobiehmmm... yes that's true I do not own one of the ancient texts, because they are all in museums etc.. I can however find some suitable copies to examine. Though it has been quite some time since I took my greek classes, there are many fine expositers, translators, concordances etc that I can rely on to augment my very imperfect ability.
How would you know unless you can examine the text for yourself, that is correct you
cannot and that is why you are only able to proffer the opinions of others on your
behalf. I shall state it again for it seems you are having trouble with it, the term 'ego
eimi', is not in isolation, it is part of a greater grammatical construct which is idiomatic.
So where did you earn your masters in ancient greek? what's that you say? you don't have one? then how could you possibly know what I can and cannot do? You can't, you've just been brain washed and then trained by the WTS cult to deny anyone elses ability to exegete scripture.
Originally posted by Dowardi do not have a masters degree in ancient Greek, i merely read a single volume by D F
hmmm... yes that's true I do not own one of the ancient texts, because they are all in museums etc.. I can however find some suitable copies to examine. Though it has been quite some time since I took my greek classes, there are many fine expositers, translators, concordances etc that I can rely on to augment my very imperfect ability.
So where did you e ...[text shortened]... washed and then trained by the WTS cult to deny anyone elses ability to exegete scripture.
Hudson which explained all the essential principles of being able to read, write and
comprehend Koine Greek. With some diligent practice and and no little effort I
managed to grasp the fundamentals so as to read write and understand Biblical
Greek. Why would i need a masters degree to do that? Did the Biblical writers have a
masters degree when they wrote it?
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-Removed-I know Muslims get around such passages by glibly saying the scriptures have been tampered with. At this point, who cares what is written down.
As far as JW"s go, they ususally say that the translations are not right for those outside the JW religion and not the fact that the original texts were tampered with. They then take delight in translating them for you.
I had one JW tell me that Jesus Chrsit was the archangel Michael when I confronted him with this scripture. I'm not sure if this is a standart JW teaching or if this is across the board. If so, they could spin it as meaning Chrsit is divine, but not God in the flesh. Of course, how they conclude that Christ is the archangel Michael is the real entertaining aspect of the theology. The evidence the JW in question provided was pretty lame if not nonexistent.
If people like Robbie believe such a theology, I think it would behoove them not to try and defend the theology that Christ is the archangel Michael because the evidence is simply not there and they know it. Perhaps this is why they don't reveal this theology publically.
Of course, you are free to correct me if I'm wrong Robbie. I would love to know the truth regarding the JW theology. Do you believe that Christ is the archangel Michael?