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Originally posted by RJHindsagain
You are speed reading again and missed what Jesus said. He said,
[b]“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
In your dictionary does eternal life also means it ends just like the punishment? If so what is the reason for eternal life.[/b]
lets see you explain why a loving and just and merciful God would torture an individual for an eternity, in the full knowledge that the individual, during a lifetime of a mere seventy or eighty years, was born in a sinful state and thus prone to aberration and sin in the first place. Thanks in advance.
please note the term 'why', as it generally demands a reason.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBecause the individual refused to repent of his sins and accept the sacrifice of the Son of God in exchange for his punisment for eternity. What more should we expect of a loving God of both justice and mercy?
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lets see you explain why a loving and just and merciful God would torture an individual for an eternity, in the full knowledge that the individual, during a lifetime of a mere seventy or eighty years, was born in a sinful state and thus prone to aberration and sin in the first place. Thanks in advance.
please note the term why, generally demands a reason.
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Originally posted by RJHindsso the unrepentant sinner gets a eternity of torment for having failed to exercise repentance for a mere seventy of eighty years, why is that in even the remotest sense of the term either just or merciful?
Because the individual refused to repent of his sins and accept the sacrifice of the Son of God in exchange for his punisment for eternity. What more should we expect of a loving God of both justice and mercy?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt shows God's great love and mercy for mankind without discarding His sense of Justice. He layed done His life for others. A god that disregards justice is an evil god indeed. So all sunhouse needs to do is repent of his sins and accept Christ as His savior to escape this eternal torment as punishment for all his wrong doings. Sounds like a good deal to me.
so the unrepentant sinner gets a eternity of torment for having failed to exercise repentance for a mere seventy of eighty years, why is that in even the remotest sense of the term either just or merciful?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie20 sins a day times 80 years is over 580,000. A just God would have to send an unrepentant sinner there.
so the unrepentant sinner gets a eternity of torment for having failed to exercise repentance for a mere seventy of eighty years, why is that in even the remotest sense of the term either just or merciful?
Originally posted by RJHindsAmen
It shows God's great love and mercy for mankind without discarding His sense of Justice. He layed done His life for others. A god that disregards justice is an evil god indeed. So all sunhouse needs to do is repent of his sins and accept Christ as His savior to escape this eternal torment as punishment for all his wrong doings. Sounds like a good deal to me.
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Originally posted by RJHindsit is in not any sense of the word just to torment someone for an eternity for mistakes made within the relatively minuscule period a of a human lifetime, is it. You have made God out to be a monstrous caricature of the reality. Its no wonder that you are a reflection of this God you have made.
It shows God's great love and mercy for mankind without discarding His sense of Justice. He layed done His life for others. A god that disregards justice is an evil god indeed. So all sunhouse needs to do is repent of his sins and accept Christ as His savior to escape this eternal torment as punishment for all his wrong doings. Sounds like a good deal to me.
Originally posted by RBHILLnonsense, perhaps you would like to calculate it for an eternity and then compare the two, the fact is that you cannot reconcile the idea of a loving and just God to the caricature of a God that would torment someone for an eternity based on some misdemeanour's perpetrated over a relatively minuscule period of a mere seventy years. Its a nonsense and you know it.
20 sins a day times 80 years is over 580,000. A just God would have to send an unrepentant sinner there.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI completely agree here, I was talking about Christians hating Jesus. I do not believe the author of the article was accurate, I think he has an agenda and the story is biased.
really, lets see you explain why a loving and just and merciful God would torture an individual for an eternity, in the full knowledge that the individual, during a lifetime of a mere seventy or eighty years, was born in a sinful state and thus prone to aberration and sin in the first place. Thanks in advance.
But as far as burning in hell forever, no, I do not believe this. John 3:16 clearly states that those who do not believe perish. And elsewhere it is mentioned "he who has the Son has life, he that does not has not life", I think John's epistle...so to burn forever, one would need eternal life.
And as you describe above, it contradict's God's character.
-Removed-this is meaningless to me, so they in your opinion make sweeping generalisations, so in your opinion its poorly written, so its made about non specific theists, so what? so what? so what?
It meaningless because it fails to address a single point the authors have made and provides not a single reason, can you not see that, not a single one, blank, meaningless, empty nothingness.
I don't know where you learned to debate but if you have no reasons and provide none other than your opinions, what are people supposed to think?