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    19 Nov '14 19:17
    😲

    http://youtu.be/4_G9awnDCmg
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    19 Nov '14 20:54
    Originally posted by C Hess
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    http://youtu.be/4_G9awnDCmg
    I had no idea ... but it all makes sense now.
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    20 Nov '14 04:58
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I had no idea ... but it all makes sense now.
    Now that you believe in God, repent.
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    20 Nov '14 08:05
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Now that you believe in God, repent.
    Repent what exactly?
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    20 Nov '14 09:38
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Repent what exactly?
    All the sins he committed trying to get you to believe in God.
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    20 Nov '14 10:20
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    All the sins he committed trying to get you to believe in God.
    I now have to take on responsibilities for his mistakes?!?!?

    Oh boy ... I'm back to being an infidel!
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    20 Nov '14 12:031 edit
    Originally posted by C Hess
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    http://youtu.be/4_G9awnDCmg
    Frigging brilliant! Intelligent design. What a laugh.
    For instance, why did humans get retinal blood vessels in FRONT of the rods and cones that gives us vision? Other animals don't have that. So your god designed us in such a way as to insure vision less than optimal? It must have been the wish of your god that we have such poor vision compared with some other animals.
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    20 Nov '14 14:02
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Frigging brilliant! Intelligent design. What a laugh.
    For instance, why did humans get retinal blood vessels in FRONT of the rods and cones that gives us vision? Other animals don't have that. So your god designed us in such a way as to insure vision less than optimal? It must have been the wish of your god that we have such poor vision compared with some other animals.
    I take it when you say "your god", you really mean "their god". 🙂

    I just weeks ago discovered nonstampcollector. He seems to have a bunch of funny vids like this. I like his style. There's actually one where a human complains to god about how horribly designed the human eye is. It's hilarious.
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    20 Nov '14 14:25
    Originally posted by C Hess
    I take it when you say "your god", you really mean "their god". 🙂

    I just weeks ago discovered nonstampcollector. He seems to have a bunch of funny vids like this. I like his style. There's actually one where a human complains to god about how horribly designed the human eye is. It's hilarious.
    My bad. Yes, THEIR god.
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    20 Nov '14 23:001 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Frigging brilliant! Intelligent design. What a laugh.
    For instance, why did humans get retinal blood vessels in FRONT of the rods and cones that gives us vision? Other animals don't have that. So your god designed us in such a way as to insure vision less than optimal? It must have been the wish of your god that we have such poor vision compared with some other animals.
    As far back as 2007, evidence emerged that showed there was something wrong with the evolutionists’ argument. Franze and his colleagues discovered that certain cells in the retina (Muller cells) act as optical fibers, funneling light right to the rods and cones. Now Labin and Ribak have modeled the dynamics of this system, and they conclude:

    The retina is revealed as an optimal structure designed for improving the sharpness of images.


    Why is this an “optimal” design for the eye? It’s actually quite amazing. There are two kinds of light that the rods and cones detect: light coming into the eye from the scene of interest, and light that has been scattered within the eye itself. Obviously, the sharpest image will be formed if the light from the scene is the only light allowed to reach the rods and cones. In other words, to form the best image possible, the scattered light (think of it as “noise” ) must be filtered out. Well, that’s exactly what the Muller cells do, according to Labin and Ribak!

    So despite what evolutionists have claimed, the vertebrate eye is, in fact, designed incredibly well. It is designed to provide the sharpest images possible. As an article in New Scientist says:

    IT LOOKS wrong, but the strange, “backwards” structure of the vertebrate retina actually improves vision.


    If the eye were designed according to what many evolutionists have said is the obviously superior design (with light hitting the rods and cones first), we would not see things as sharply as we do now.

    http://blog.drwile.com/?p=1060
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    21 Nov '14 13:571 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    As far back as 2007, evidence emerged that showed there was something wrong with the evolutionists’ argument. Franze and his colleagues discovered that certain cells in the retina (Muller cells) act as optical fibers, funneling light right to the rods and cones. Now Labin and Ribak have modeled the dynamics of this system, and they conclude:

    [quote] The ...[text shortened]... s first), we would not see things as sharply as we do now.


    http://blog.drwile.com/?p=1060[/b]
    So they act as a metamaterial. That is new. That mediates the presence of the blood cells in front of the rods and cones. But they are still not as good, human eyes vs other animals, like Eagle's have eyes with about 10 times the resolution of human eyes and their blood vessels are behind the cones and rods. One wonders if bears, whose vision is much poorer than even humans, have blood vessels in front of cones and rods but not as many muller cells.

    You need to search out real science like that if you expect to gain street cred. That was probably your first real science search. Good one.
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    21 Nov '14 15:20
    Originally posted by C Hess
    😲

    http://youtu.be/4_G9awnDCmg
    I thought this would be the Dumb and Dumber To scene. 🙁
  13. Standard memberRJHinds
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    22 Nov '14 03:50
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So they act as a metamaterial. That is new. That mediates the presence of the blood cells in front of the rods and cones. But they are still not as good, human eyes vs other animals, like Eagle's have eyes with about 10 times the resolution of human eyes and their blood vessels are behind the cones and rods. One wonders if bears, whose vision is much poorer ...[text shortened]... t if you expect to gain street cred. That was probably your first real science search. Good one.
    Humans do not need to see like an eagle. Anyway we were given the ability to make binoculars and such to improve our vision when we want.
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    22 Nov '14 03:51
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    I thought this would be the Dumb and Dumber To scene. 🙁
    Or maybe the talking out his ass scene.
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    22 Nov '14 08:28
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Humans do not need to see like an eagle. Anyway we were given the ability to make binoculars and such to improve our vision when we want.
    It would be useful to see like an eagle, and you have to ask yourself why a designer failed to give the crown-jewel of his design the best possible eye.

    What müeller cells prove is simply that evolution can take a piss-poor design and ad fixes until it's adequate. There are still problems with having a backwards wiring (such as the blind spot, that needs to be compensated for by wirings in the brain - piss-poor design with added fixes elsewhere). The entire domain of life is absolutely teeming with secondary fixes of this nature.
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