Why I am a bible god atheist

Originally posted by sonhouse
You know full well what I mean. A god would think the same, that it is wrong to kill, much less kill LITERALLY millions of people. HUMANS took care of the situation in WW2, not a god. And of course killing for religion is going on today as we speak, children killed for daring to want an education. For religious reasons. Like a god would decree that kind of ...[text shortened]... els but a MAN 50.

If you believe that came from a god you are fully brainwashed and deluded.

I am not the one claiming to know how God should view things that is you. My abilities
start and end with my abilities to gather information from the universe around me. The
God of the Bible sees it all quite differently since God sees it all at once, has total
knowledge about the largest pieces to the smallest, and can act any where, at any time,
or any reason. God holds the whole universe together by the power of His Word while I
on the other hand have bills to pay and a family to feed.

What God sees as important I may not, and what I see as an issue in my life God may not.

My life ends here once I'm gone as far as I know, I may believe otherwise but my beliefs
will not alter the truth of what happens next any more than yours will either. God would
know and with that knowledge know what is more important leading into the next part of
life and see things differently than we do.

For all I know our actions of love and grace as well as our own absolute cruelty could be
a filter for the next life. What we go through here and how we behave may be much more
important than what we go through, but that again would mean we would need to know
the hows and whys we are here now. That is NOT knowledge you currently have.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
No I don't. If something is wrong regardless of what people think or believe then it is objectively wrong.

You confirmed that your own opinion outweighs the opinion of God. You said that killing random kids is wrong even if God tells you to go kill random kids. You suffer from cognitive dissonance.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
By figure it out on our own do you mean that there is a universal standard of right and wrong that we need to discover?

No. I mean you need to figure out what you stand for. It's a wide and deep subject for the honest thinker. Or, if you're clueless about this, just toe the line of the religion that culture, society and family inflicts on you. That is easiest for many.

Originally posted by apathist
You confirmed that your own opinion outweighs the opinion of God. You said that killing random kids is wrong even if God tells you to go kill random kids. You suffer from cognitive dissonance.

No I said even if someone thought God was telling them that, it would be wrong because if they did think God was telling them that they would be crazy.

Originally posted by apathist
No. I mean you need to figure out what [b]you stand for. It's a wide and deep subject for the honest thinker. Or, if you're clueless about this, just toe the line of the religion that culture, society and family inflicts on you. That is easiest for many.[/b]

No. I mean you need to figure out what you stand for.

Why would what I stand for matter if it were only my subjective opinion?

I definitely agree that we should not blindly follow the masses.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
No I said even if someone thought God was telling them that, it would be wrong because if they did think God was telling them that they would be crazy.

Why would that mean they are crazy?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
[b]No. I mean you need to figure out what you stand for.

Why would what I stand for matter if it were only my subjective opinion?

I definitely agree that we should not blindly follow the masses.[/b]

It would matter because you decided to stand for it.

Originally posted by apathist
Why would that mean they are crazy?

Because no one in their right mind kills people for no reason because they think a Devine being is instructing them to do so.

Originally posted by apathist
It would matter [b]because you decided to stand for it.[/b]

It would matter only to myself?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Because no one in their right mind kills people for no reason because they think a Devine being is instructing them to do so.

I agree. You confirm that humans should judge the gods.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
It would matter only to myself?

No. You take a stand and make a mark, remember? This can have ripple effects all over the place.

Originally posted by apathist
I agree. You confirm that humans should judge the gods.

Or what I mean is people who hear voices in their heads (that they think is a God telling them to kill people) are crazy.

Originally posted by apathist
No. You take a stand and make a mark, remember? This can have ripple effects all over the place.

What about people who stand up for beliefs that they think are true but they aren't?

I can't be a bible-god atheist anymore ... now that I have realized it was all just humanity looking at itself in a mirror.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Or what I mean is people who hear voices in their heads (that they think is a God telling them to kill people) are crazy.

But that amounts to implying that we should judge the gods. Unless you mean that the gods never speak to people in their heads?