Originally posted by dj2becker
I cannot comprehend the confusion of ideas that could provoke such a statement. Would you mind expounding on the ramifications of your statement in order to provide some clarity. You could just as well have said that you hope you make yourself obscure...
You've got to be kidding. Do you only read those threads which you started? I've gone on
about this dozens of times.
Stone moved before or after Mary arrives?
St Mark 16:2-4 -- Very early when the sun had risen, on the first day of the week, [Mary
Magdalene, Mary, the mother of James, and Salome] came to the tomb. They were saying
to one another, 'Who will roll back the stone for us from the entrance to the tomb?' When
they looked up, they saw that the stone had been rolled [apokeknliptain --
perfect, clearly indicating that the event occured before the women arrived]; it was very
St Matthew 28:1-2 -- After the sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary
Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. And behold, there was a great earthquake;
for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, approached, and rolled back the stone
active, past tense, clearly indicating that the event was taking place while
the women were present], and sat upon it.
Did Jesus die before or after the Passover Seder?
St Mark 14:12a -- On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when they sacrificed the
This scene takes place before the Last Supper.
The Passover Lamb was ALWAYS
sacrificed the morning before the Passover Seder. Thus,
in St Mark (and Sts Matthew and Luke), the Last Supper was necessarily the Pascha
St John 18:28 -- Then they brought Jesus from Caiaphas to the praetorium. It was morning. And
they themselves did not enter the praetorium, in order not to be defiled so that they could eat
the Passover [[i]Pascha
St John 19:14 -- It was preparation day for Passover, and it was about noon.
St John 19:42 -- So they laid Jesus there because of the Jewish preparation day; for the tomb
was close by.
These scenes take place the day after
the Last Supper, but as you can clearly see, it is
before the celebration of the Passover Seder (Pascha
) because they are still preparing for
it and trying not to be defiled.
If you can explain these two obvious contradictions, I will explain how Telerion simultaneously
believes and does not believe in Muffy.