Originally posted by galveston75If you treat the bible as scientific, then you have to treat all the bible scientific, not only more or less well-chosen parts. If the bible states that the Earth is a sphere (which I very much doubt), doesn't mean that Jesus walking on water is pure science (it isn't).
Well ok......
Let's agree that the bible is (as best) a religous document, nothing more.
Originally posted by FabianFnasWell no it's much more but it's all ok.
If you treat the bible as scientific, then you have to treat all the bible scientific, not only more or less well-chosen parts. If the bible states that the Earth is a sphere (which I very much doubt), doesn't mean that Jesus walking on water is pure science (it isn't).
Let's agree that the bible is (as best) a religous document, nothing more.
Originally posted by FabianFnas"the circle [or, sphere] of the earth."
If you treat the bible as scientific, then you have to treat all the bible scientific, not only more or less well-chosen parts. If the bible states that the Earth is a sphere (which I very much doubt), doesn't mean that Jesus walking on water is pure science (it isn't).
Let's agree that the bible is (as best) a religous document, nothing more.
The "[or, sphere]" is what galveston75 put in.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+40:22&version=NIV
So galveston75 interpreted the bible to mean something different to what it actually said. Cicles and spheres are not the same thing.
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Originally posted by galveston75A source of accurate science?!
But my friend the Bible actually has proven to be a sourse of accurate science. Was not the world thought to be flat thru most of mans existance or it was being carried on the backs of animals?
"The Bible also speaks of God as “hanging the earth upon nothing,” or he “suspends earth in the void,” according to The New English Bible. (Job 26:7) In view ...[text shortened]... the streams come from, there they return again.” (Ecclesiastes 1:7, New International Version)
You're not serious are you?
Originally posted by lauseyIsaiah 40:22 (The Message)
"the circle [or, sphere] of the earth."
The "[or, sphere]" is what galveston75 put in.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+40:22&version=NIV
So galveston75 interpreted the bible to mean something different to what it actually said. Cicles and spheres are not the same thing.
21-24Have you not been paying attention?
Have you not been listening?
Haven't you heard these stories all your life?
Don't you understand the foundation of all things?
God sits high above the round ball of earth.
The people look like mere ants.
He stretches out the skies like a canvas—
yes, like a tent canvas to live under.
He ignores what all the princes say and do.
The rulers of the earth count for nothing.
Princes and rulers don't amount to much.
Like seeds barely rooted, just sprouted,
They shrivel when God blows on them.
Like flecks of chaff, they're gone with the wind.
And exactly why would the earth not appear round from any viewpoint? Would the earth be round from one viewpoint and flat from another? You guys are getting really silly.
Originally posted by josephwi think FEAR is the problem here, dont you? why care enjoy your life the end is near and then we all will know every knee will bend TRUST!!
I admit I sometimes use sarcasm. But only in a context that I find humorous.
I think I once said something that was borderline name calling.
But I think my big sin in this forum is just being plain stupid.
I most definitely afford you the right to believe and say whatever is on your mind without fear that I would disrespect that right.
God isn ...[text shortened]... t. We don't want to face our guilt.
Hey, would you rather talk to taco bell? lol
Originally posted by galveston75http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Message_(Bible)
Isaiah 40:22 (The Message)
21-24Have you not been paying attention?
Have you not been listening?
Haven't you heard these stories all your life?
Don't you understand the foundation of all things?
God sits high above the round ball of earth.
The people look like mere ants.
He stretches out the skies like a canvas—
yes, like a ten ...[text shortened]... earth be round from one viewpoint and flat from another? You guys are getting really silly.
This version of the bible is less than 20 years old, so Eugene H. Peterson modified it to fit with modern science. 😛
Originally posted by galveston75The onus is on you to prove your claim. Not the other way around.
Yes sir.... Can you prove it's not? I'll be waiting.
But here we go anyway,
1. Can you tell me what the Bible has to say on horizontal gene transfer?!
and
2. What does the Bible have to say regarding Hubble's Law?
That's a start.
The point here that cannot be denied is that the writers of those scriptures wrote that the earth was circular ( round ). How did they know that? From flying in a space shuttle?
They wrote it is because God told them what the shape was as it was something they would have had no knowledge of as they could not fly.
i see this conversation is for grown ups im not here dont mind me ill just sit here and have fun watching the rest of you thrash about like fish out of warter. i must say i do have hope that i will one day meet my maker this i have no dought. death will come this i know for sure but hey what a bueatiful day its gonna be today.