22 Dec 21
@kellyjay saidAlways? Young Earth Creationists, dont know what ALWAYS means.
Show me from the Biblical text God the Father wasn't always God the Father, show me with Biblical text, not some narrative that the Word of God wasn't always the Word of God.
Biblical texts start at the creation of this world. Life was going on millions or even billions of years before that.
Tell me what ALWAYS means for YOU, and I will give you an answer
22 Dec 21
@kellyjay saidPointless sophistry. Obviously the biblical text (written by ignorant desert tribesmen) will only corroborate itself. More to the point: show me by NON BIBLICAL TEXT, by objective pragmatic analysis that the father wasn’t always god the father etc.
Show me from the Biblical text God the Father wasn't always God the Father, show me with Biblical text, not some narrative that the Word of God wasn't always the Word of God.
22 Dec 21
@rajk999 saidYou refuse to give answers to questions being put to you, do you not? You don't ever explain yourself to anyone when questioned. Exactly why would anyone feel the need to answer your questions? Aren't you being a hypocrite in asking for something you refuse to give?
Always? Young Earth Creationists, dont know what ALWAYS means.
Biblical texts start at the creation of this world. Life was going on millions or even billions of years before that.
Tell me what ALWAYS means for YOU, and I will give you an answer
22 Dec 21
@kellyjay saidYou are a stupid man. The bible's record starts from the creation of the world. There was life before that in the universe. The Father was there in the universe with the Son before the creation of the world. How can a book that records the history from the start of the world only, contain what happened before? Its not possible, you fool.
You refuse to give answers to questions being put to you, do you not? You don't ever explain yourself to anyone when questioned. Exactly why would anyone feel the need to answer your questions? Aren't you being a hypocrite in asking for something you refuse to give?
God was there with the Son. God was there first, the Son came after. Hence the name Father and Son. One was first, and the other was created, or born or evolved or something. Had they existed at exactly the same time the names Father and Son would not be used.
22 Dec 21
@rajk999 saidScripture, I don't care about your opinion, any story you can come up with, use the Bible, or it doesn't matter.
You are a stupid man. The bible's record starts from the creation of the world. There was life before that in the universe. The Father was there in the universe with the Son before the creation of the world. How can a book that records the history from the start of the world only, contain what happened before? Its not possible, you fool.
God was there with the Son. God ...[text shortened]... or something. Had they existed at exactly the same time the names Father and Son would not be used.
@kellyjay saidThis is why normal people laugh are you dunces. There is a world of information and facts that are not in the bible. The bible has a specific set of information. You can confine yourself to the bible and make yourself look like a fool, so go ahead.
Scripture, I don't care about your opinion, any story you can come up with, use the Bible, or it doesn't matter.
22 Dec 21
@rajk999 saidI see your opinions, just no scripture, so everything you say so far is made up in your own mind.
This is why normal people laugh are you dunces. There is a world of information and facts that are not in the bible. The bible has a specific set of information. You can confine yourself to the bible and make yourself look like a fool, so go ahead.
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22 Dec 21
@pianoman1 said<<Obviously the biblical text (written by ignorant desert tribesmen)>>
Pointless sophistry. Obviously the biblical text (written by ignorant desert tribesmen) will only corroborate itself. More to the point: show me by NON BIBLICAL TEXT, by objective pragmatic analysis that the father wasn’t always god the father etc.
Wow. The ignorance in that statement is breathtaking. Do you have any idea who wrote the Holy Bible? Or, more accurately, who was inspired, led and guided by God’s Holy Spirit to write the Holy Bible?
Ever hear of Solomon? King David? Saul of Tarsus, later renamed Paul? Luke, a medical doctor?
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22 Dec 21
@rajk999 saidDo you think the Holy Bible was divinely inspired, that the men who wrote the Holy Bible did so under the inspiration, guidance and control of God’s Holy Spirit?
This is why normal people laugh are you dunces. There is a world of information and facts that are not in the bible. The bible has a specific set of information. You can confine yourself to the bible and make yourself look like a fool, so go ahead.
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22 Dec 21
@pianoman1 said<<show me by NON BIBLICAL TEXT, by objective pragmatic analysis that the father wasn’t always god the father etc.>>
Pointless sophistry. Obviously the biblical text (written by ignorant desert tribesmen) will only corroborate itself. More to the point: show me by NON BIBLICAL TEXT, by objective pragmatic analysis that the father wasn’t always god the father etc.
Show me why the Holy Bible isn’t reliable and trustworthy
22 Dec 21
@pb1022 saidYes, but that is irrelevant. The bible although divinely inspired contains a limited about of information from the creation of man to the birth of Christ. It contains nothing about past creations on the Earth which Jesus did eg dinosaurs and Neanderthals and other such beings, who knows for how many millions of years. The relationship between the Father and Son is is the issue. You say they are equal and the bible says otherwise.
Do you think the Holy Bible was divinely inspired, that the men who wrote the Holy Bible did so under the inspiration, guidance and control of God’s Holy Spirit?
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22 Dec 21
@rajk999 saidEqual in identity, not equal in role
Yes, but that is irrelevant. The bible although divinely inspired contains a limited about of information from the creation of man to the birth of Christ. It contains nothing about past creations on the Earth which Jesus did eg dinosaurs and Neanderthals and other such beings, who knows for how many millions of years. The relationship between the Father and Son is is the issue. You say they are equal and the bible says otherwise.