@pb1022 saidThats fine. You believe your church doctrine, and I am happy to say what the bible says, which is
Equal in identity, not equal in role
God is greater
God has the power
Christ gets his power from God
Christ is subject to God before his ministry
During his ministry
After his ministry
After the millennium
No equality was expressed by Christ .
Christ recognised God is greater.
Im cool that those beliefs
@rajk999 saidWhat I believe isn’t “church doctrine.”
Thats fine. You believe your church doctrine, and I am happy to say what the bible says, which is
God is greater
God has the power
Christ gets his power from God
Christ is subject to God before his ministry
During his ministry
After his ministry
After the millennium
No equality was expressed by Christ .
Christ recognised God is greater.
Im cool that those beliefs
What I believe is the Holy Bible.
You honestly seem incapable of understanding service motivated by love and not by force.
You think people will only help others if the threat of hell is hanging over them.
You think Jesus Christ wouldn’t voluntarily serve humanity and die for humanity unless He was forced to by God the Father.
@pb1022 saidHey .. Im fine you have your beliefs that you are happy with. Clearly you are not fine with me having beliefs that Im happy with. You church people need to force your beliefs down the throats of others, and if that fails then you start to get abusive. . You people are intolerant.
What I believe isn’t “church doctrine.”
What I believe is the Holy Bible.
You honestly seem incapable of understanding service motivated by love and not by force.
You think people will only help others if the threat of hell is hanging over them.
You think Jesus Christ wouldn’t voluntarily serve humanity and die for humanity unless He was forced to by God the Father.
Im happy with mine.
You are happy with yours.
Go in peace.
@rajk999 saidI have no problem with your beliefs, you are just another person who rejects God. If people got upset with all the people who reject God then it would be a life of grief.
Hey .. Im fine you have your beliefs that you are happy with. Clearly you are not fine with me having beliefs that Im happy with. You church people need to force your beliefs down the throats of others, and if that fails then you start to get abusive. . You people are intolerant.
Im happy with mine.
You are happy with yours.
Go in peace.
@pb1022 saidYes. All the people you mention were ignorant of science. They all believed that disease, pestilence, earthquakes, starvation etc were punishments from God. They had no idea of viruses and plate tectonics. Religion to them was the first way of figuring out the world, why we are here, who made us etc. The bible was a cute, but misguidedly ignorant explanation of things they could not understand. BTW I love the beautiful language and lyricism of the King James Bible.
<<Obviously the biblical text (written by ignorant desert tribesmen)>>
Wow. The ignorance in that statement is breathtaking. Do you have any idea who wrote the Holy Bible? Or, more accurately, who was inspired, led and guided by God’s Holy Spirit to write the Holy Bible?
Ever hear of Solomon? King David? Saul of Tarsus, later renamed Paul? Luke, a medical doctor?
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@rajk999 saidALL of this "not in the Bible" crap is a red herring. Pure misdirection.
Yes. I made up that there were dinosaurs that Jesus created, even though the bible did not say that. Lots of stuff I made up that is not in the bible.
@rajk999 saidI’m not a “church person.”
Hey .. Im fine you have your beliefs that you are happy with. Clearly you are not fine with me having beliefs that Im happy with. You church people need to force your beliefs down the throats of others, and if that fails then you start to get abusive. . You people are intolerant.
Im happy with mine.
You are happy with yours.
Go in peace.
I’m a Holy Bible person.
And I’m not the one who’s constantly insulting Christians in this forum and calling them names.
That’d be you.
@pianoman1 saidI love the language of the KJV too.
Yes. All the people you mention were ignorant of science. They all believed that disease, pestilence, earthquakes, starvation etc were punishments from God. They had no idea of viruses and plate tectonics. Religion to them was the first way of figuring out the world, why we are here, who made us etc. The bible was a cute, but misguidedly ignorant explanation of things they could not understand. BTW I love the beautiful language and lyricism of the King James Bible.
The Holy Bible isn’t (nor was it meant to be) a science textbook. But when it touches on science it’s centuries ahead of the science of its time.
@pb1022 saidAgreed about the Bible not being a science textbook (thankfully!). Your second claim is questionable. What evidence do you have to support this?
I love the language of the KJV too.
The Holy Bible isn’t (nor was it meant to be) a science textbook. But when it touches on science it’s centuries ahead of the science of its time.
@pianoman1 saidIsaiah 11:12 “And gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.”
Agreed about the Bible not being a science textbook (thankfully!). Your second claim is questionable. What evidence do you have to support this?
No wait, that can't be it.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThat’s figurative language.
Isaiah 11:12 “And gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.”
No wait, that can't be it.
Also in Isaiah:
“It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:”
(Isaiah 40:22)
Do you say the sun rises and sets? Why you must think the sun revolves around the earth!
@pianoman1 saidThis video’s 11 minutes long and gives 10 examples:
Agreed about the Bible not being a science textbook (thankfully!). Your second claim is questionable. What evidence do you have to support this?
@pb1022 saidDidn't the devil tempt Jesus and show him all the kingdoms of the Earth from a high hill? (Matthew 4:8)
That’s figurative language.
Also in Isaiah:
“It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:”
(Isaiah 40:22)
Do you say the sun rises and sets? Why you must think the sun revolves around the earth!
Was that figurative?!