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Go to bed sonship; it’s just a forum and your angry lashing outs don’t make you John Newton.
Benjamin Newton would be good enough.
However, the passage didn't go away, did it?
"In that day there will be an opened FOUNTAIN for the house of David and for the inhabitants of Jerusalem, for sin and for impurity." (Zechariah 13:1)
If that fountain for sin is not related to the pierced Son in the previous chapter, who is God's Son and Redeemer, then what is your interpretation of what that fountain is?
Oh you didn't notice the previous chapter maybe.
"And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and of supplications;
and they will look upon Me [God] whom they have pierced; and they will wail over Him with wailing as for an only son and cry bitterly over Him with bitter crying as for a firstborn son." (Zechariah 12:10)
Folks, the tribes of the land of Israel will realize that Jesus Christ is that Son of God (and their own Son of Man) who they pierced in crucifixion centuries back. And wailing because of both joy that He has come to rescue Israel and repentance because they had so long rejected Him as their Messiah.
That, I propose, is the way to understand the next chapter's reference to the opened fountain for the house of David for sin and impurity.
We'll wait to see what the Modalist / Unitarian interpretation on it is from Divegeester.
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I haven't accused all "other" Christians of being members of a "Satanic organization". It was Witness Lee who made that accusation.
If I ask you to produce the offending words in print, will you say you don't care if people think you ... um ... exaggerate?
Why did Fuller Theological Seminary print this statement among its conclusions of examining Lee's and Nee's books in light of such criticisms.
It is the conclusion of Fuller Theological Seminary that the teachings and practices of the local churches and its members represent the genuine, historical, biblical Christian faith in every essential aspect.
Did you get that? "Genuine, historical, biblical Christian faith in EVERY ASPECT. " [My bolding]
These are dedicated theologians, Christian teachers, Christian professors. HOW COME no "Well, these local church people are very sectarian condemning all OTHER Christians of being an organization of Satan"?
They could have WELL said that FMF. Why didn't they ?
You better check the offending quotation for fullest context.
Do you LIKE to be hoodwinked, deceived with false half truth propaganda?
How come the theological professors of Fundamentalist Fuller Seminary upon concerted effort to STUDY fairly the messages of Witness Lee in light of his critics write -
…the teachings of Witness Lee have been grossly misrepresented and therefore most frequently misunderstood in the general Christian community, especially among those who classify themselves as evangelicals.
Did you get that?
" ... FREQUENTLY MISUNDERSTOOD in the general Christian community ... ESPECIALLY ...AMONG THOSE WHO CLASSIFY THEMSELVES AS EVANGELICALS."
Do you LIKE to be manipulated with half truths propaganda?
What's your conspiracy theory as to WHY Christian seminary doctored degree theologians decided that some Christians have been sold a bill of goods concerning what Witness Lee taught?
What? We paid them off ?
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@sonship saidNot that I have ever asked for, or needed, an apology from you ~ it's interesting enough just to see what you are really like and what effect your superstitious zealotry has on your integrity and interpersonal skills ~ nevertheless, this apology is accepted as valid until such time as your behaviour and demeanour indicate that, as expressions of regret go, it was, in fact, worthless and probably simply expedient (after a pointedly unfortunate couple of days in sonship-online-persona-world), if that should be the case.
All the toilet heart, all the diseased, and other quips, I'm sorry I insulted you. I'm sorry FMF. I'm Sorry Rajk999. I'm sorry Divegeester. I'm sorry Ghost of a Duke.I am sorry whoever I insulted or said something mean to.
My bolding
Criticism of Organized Christianity
Harvest House Publishers and its authors, John Ankerberg and John Weldon, have endeavored to make Living Stream Ministry and the local churches repulsive in the eyes of the Christian public by portraying us as anti-Christian, that is, against Christians and against the faith. They create this deception by placing our words in a foreign context, making our Scripture-based rejection of unbiblical teachings, practices and institutions appear as though it is a rejection of Christian believers and of the faith. The perpetration of this falsehood is an exercise in hypocrisy, as their own books claim that the church today is filled with occultism, is sick, and has compromised the truth of the gospel. Furthermore, some of Harvest House’s own writers echo the core of our critique of the state of the church today. Instead of truthfully presenting or responding to that critique, Harvest House and its authors have instead chosen to expand upon their misrepresentations in the Encyclopedia of Cults and New Religions (ECNR) by completely distorting our teaching in postings on the Harvest House corporate Web site and documents filed with the courts. Such disregard for the truth is shameful, particularly for Christians, and even more so because they were provided with thorough documentation of their distortions in 2001.
https://contendingforthefaith.org/en/criticism-of-christianity/
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[My bolding] [My spam too if you want to dismiss it as such]
Organized Christianity’s Shortcomings
However, what we see today in Christendom in the organized system of “Christianity” falls far short of this reality and is characterized instead by the mixing of many foreign elements into the pure divine revelation that is found in the Scriptures. These non-biblical elements change the normal Christian life from a daily enjoyment of Christ as life to creedalism and Christ-less religious duty. They deform the normal function and expression of the church from that of the Body of Christ to a mere organization of man, cheating God’s people of their function and damaging God’s testimony of oneness. Thus, our criticism is not of the Christian faith or of our fellow believers; our criticism is of the “anity” that has been added to Christ, the system of Christianity as it exists today.
The Bible records that Christ “loved the church and gave Himself up for her” (Eph. 5:25), not for any “ism,” whether “Judaism,” “Catholicism” or “Protestantism.” God did not save us for any “anity” or any “ism;” He saved us to be the Body of Christ. While concepts such as these are not universally held among believers today, neither are they entirely foreign. They certainly should not be foreign to those putting themselves forward as Christian scholars and Christian publishers.
https://contendingforthefaith.org/en/misrepresentations-on-the-harvest-house-corporate-web-site/