1. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    23 Mar '08 16:30
    Two Principles of Human Enlightenment:


    #1. Yes, there is a God.

    #2. You are not He (Him).



    😀
  2. Standard memberRapidfyre
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    23 Mar '08 17:04
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Two Principles of Human Enlightenment:


    #1. Yes, there is a God.

    #2. You are not He (Him).



    😀
    Love it.
  3. Standard memberyo its me
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    23 Mar '08 17:05
    Originally posted by Rapidfyre
    Love it.
    Aye 'tis da bomb!
  4. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    23 Mar '08 17:06
    Here's the visual.



    Eternity Past) ................................................................... (human history) .................... (Eternity Future
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    23 Mar '08 19:32
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Two Principles of Human Enlightenment:


    #1. Yes, there is a God.

    #2. You are not He (Him).



    😀
    Why should I reject that?
  6. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    23 Mar '08 19:49
    Originally posted by Ponderable
    Why should I reject that?
    Sort of hoped YOU wouldn't, while knowing full well OTHERS would. 🙂
  7. Standard memberrbmorris
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    23 Mar '08 20:15
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Two Principles of Human Enlightenment:


    #1. Yes, there is a God.

    #2. You are not He (Him).



    😀
    Happy Easter everyone.
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    23 Mar '08 22:45
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Two Principles of Human Enlightenment:


    #1. Yes, there is a God.

    #2. You are not He (Him).



    😀
    I would reject only the word (Him) since it would be grammatically incorrect because the verb "to be" takes the same case after it as it does before it.
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    23 Mar '08 22:51
    #1 Some think there is a God

    #2 I don't think it is me
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    23 Mar '08 23:531 edit
    Originally posted by muppyman
    I would reject only the word (Him) since it would be grammatically incorrect because the verb "to be" takes the same case after it as it does before it.
    He is the subjective pronoun: He stole my eggs.
    Him is the objective pronoun: It was him who stole my eggs.

    As the pronoun is in the objective state, the correct expression is therefore "You are not Him." You are correct, however, that the verb is uninflected.

    EDIT: You could say, "He is not you." But then the verb is inflected.
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    24 Mar '08 00:52
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    He is the subjective pronoun: He stole my eggs.
    Him is the objective pronoun: It was him who stole my eggs.

    As the pronoun is in the objective state, the correct expression is therefore "You are not Him." You are correct, however, that the verb is uninflected.

    EDIT: You could say, "He is not you." But then the verb is inflected.
    I agree with most of what you say, especially your examples using part of the conjugation of the verb "to steal" and that rule certainly applies to all verbs in the English language, with the sole exception of the conjugation of the verb "to be" When using that verb, the subjective noun or pronoun remains subjective after the verb, just as it does in Latin grammar. E.g. It was I, I am he, You are not He is, I submit, the correct grammar, although common usage disregards the rule.
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    24 Mar '08 01:101 edit
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    He is the subjective pronoun: He stole my eggs.
    Him is the objective pronoun: It was him who stole my eggs.

    As the pronoun is in the objective state, the correct expression is therefore "You are not Him." You are correct, however, that the verb is uninflected.

    EDIT: You could say, "He is not you." But then the verb is inflected.
    It's common in everyday talk to follow the verb "to be" with object pronouns, but that practice is not formally correct. What you say would be true if "to be" and its related forms were transitive verbs, but they are not transitive verbs. In this case, the pronoun takes the form of the subject complement of a linking verb. The proper pronoun case is subjective: You are not He.

    EDIT: Basically what muppyman already said. I just read his response.
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    24 Mar '08 01:30
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    He is the subjective pronoun: He stole my eggs.
    Him is the objective pronoun: It was him who stole my eggs.

    As the pronoun is in the objective state, the correct expression is therefore "You are not Him." You are correct, however, that the verb is uninflected.

    EDIT: You could say, "He is not you." But then the verb is inflected.
    I agree with most of what you say, especially your examples using part of the conjugation of the verb "to steal" and that rule certainly applies to all verbs in the English language, with the sole exception of the conjugation of the verb "to be" When using that verb, the subjective noun or pronoun remains subjective after the verb.

    My fault. The verb "to be" is copular in this instance. So the two pronouns are equivalent. As LemonJello said, I got confused between the two, mistaking the verb as transitive - with my example "to steal".

    From now on I will only post in the afternoon.
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    24 Mar '08 02:07
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Two Principles of Human Enlightenment:


    #1. Yes, there is a God.

    #2. You are not He (Him).



    😀
    #1 - Might not be true

    #2 - If #1 is true, I believe I am God. At least I can prove I exist, which puts me ahead of all other gods there are out there.
  15. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    24 Mar '08 14:57
    Originally posted by serigado
    #1 - Might not be true

    #2 - If #1 is true, I believe I am God. At least I can prove I exist, which puts me ahead of all other gods there are out there.
    God is a gentleman. He always respects the excercise of your free will and wiould never coerce it. He has revealed

    Himself to mankind (in the design and function of the natural world, The First Advent of Christ and in The Word

    of Truth) and is offering you a free gift. You have a perfect right to ignore and/or reject it. Choice is up to you.
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