Originally posted by FetchmyjunkStick with whatever you want. If you think I am trying to convert you to or from anything, you are completely misunderstanding the situation and completely misunderstanding the nature of our conversation.
Tell me if 'evil' is real or imaginary or universal or relative. Can you can offer me a more coherent theory than the Bible on the existence and origin of evil? If you can't I am going to have to stick with what the Bible says.
The Bible provides a "coherent theory ...on the existence and origin of evil"? Ha? The last time I looked it had a fairy story about demons and angels and other supernatural beings!
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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunkwell that just goes to highlight the complexity of 'truth'. something can be true and false at the same time, depending on perspective, depending on wording.
The time in your time zone was 12:27 and it was true for everyone in your time zone. The fact that people lives in different time zones doesn't mean they are experiencing a different reality to someone in a different time zone. That would be like saying in my time zone torturing a baby for fun is wrong but in your time zone its suddenly ok.
its false that I would enjoy torturing babies, its true that torturing babies is fun (for people who enjoy torturing babies). we can say that its morally wrong to torture babies (and that would be true) and we can say that a psychopath thinks its morally good to torture a baby (and that would be true for the psychopath).
Originally posted by stellspalfieThe psychopath would think it is true but in reality it wouldn't be.
well that just goes to highlight the complexity of 'truth'. something can be true and false at the same time, depending on perspective, depending on wording.
its false that I would enjoy torturing babies, its true that torturing babies is fun (for people who enjoy torturing babies). we can say that its morally wrong to torture babies (and that would b ...[text shortened]... sychopath thinks its morally good to torture a baby (and that would be true for the psychopath).
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk'In reality' from whose perspective? The decision of what is 'right' or 'wrong' (not to be confused with morality) is necessarily subjective. From the psychopaths perspective it is, in reality, right to torture babies.
The psychopath would think it is true but in reality it wouldn't be.
Originally posted by twhiteheadIf one person believes there is a worm in an apple and another person believes there is not a worm in the same apple. Both their beliefs can't be true at the same time.
'In reality' from whose perspective? The decision of what is 'right' or 'wrong' (not to be confused with morality) is necessarily subjective. From the psychopaths perspective it is, in reality, right to torture babies.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkHow does this analogy apply to your superstitious beliefs about supernatural events and beings ~ which you cannot demonstrate to be "true" other than in your imagination and according to your sincere personal opinion ~ unlike the worm's presence in the apple which can be demonstrated?
If one person believes there is a worm in an apple and another person believes there is not a worm in the same apple. Both their beliefs can't be true at the same time.