@ghost-of-a-duke saidThere are people all over the world who have become Christian and many who even go to church do not, becoming a Christian is a call of God and a response to Him, not the location of where you were born. You are saying until we look at every single possible choice we cannot make an informed decision, have you thought that through with every possibility involved before you said that, how unmoving your argument is?
So the answer is no, you haven't looked into Hinduism and don't really know what you are comparing Christianity to, but nonetheless place your God over all other religions,....even though you haven't explored those religions, and despite the fact, had you by chance been born in India, you would no doubt be here stating that the Hindu Gods are the prime reality?
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@kellyjay saidDid anybody witness your God create the universe?
Papers please, or a link, so they discovered a perpetual motion and energy source that never ends did they, that can raise all the disintegrated matter and recharge the death of an entire universe? Dark energy fluctuation on a galactic scale, is amazing, it sounds like pixy dust, did that god you compared to the Lord of the Bible make it? Do they have taped evidence of a bounce, or did someone witness it, exactly what about all of this is a scientific certainty?
And I think you have a monopoly on pixie dust.
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@kellyjay saidOh the irony.
Scientists can say the strangest things,
Tell us about Jonah living inside a whale, Balaam's talking donkey, or the clearly ancient planet we live on only being a few thousand years old.
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@kellyjay saidIt is a factual statement that most people born in India are Hindu, while most people born in Iraq are Muslim. Geography is the major reason people choose one religion over another, as it is the religion they have greater exposure to and are brought up with. Of course people change religions, but the vast majority do not. Again, your own religious choice is significantly influenced by geography and circumstance and it is much more likely, had you been born in India, that you would be here speaking of Hinduism as the prime reality.
There are people all over the world who have become Christian and many who even go to church do not, becoming a Christian is a call of God and a response to Him, not the location of where you were born. You are saying until we look at every single possible choice we cannot make an informed decision, have you thought that through with every possibility involved before you said that, how unmoving your argument is?
Instead of sinners being tormented for eternity in the fires of hell, you would delight in bad karma and the effects it has on our next incarnation.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIf we are going to submit any claim about something that is either a singular event or beyond our ability to prove our reasoning needs to be sound. Even the claim we can’t know is a statement of faith.
Did anybody witness your God create the universe?
And I think you have a monopoly on pixie dust.
My stating my opinion or you is what individuals do in discussing things, yet you want to call me out for this while it is nothing but us expressing our opinions.
The topic of our conversation is what is important and the truth about the object of our conversation matters. The truth doesn’t change to suit ideology or anyone’s worldview it is what it is. You should spend more time contemplating the topic than me.
@kellyjay saidThe science I have spoken about is simply over your head.
If we are going to submit any claim about something that is either a singular event or beyond our ability to prove our reasoning needs to be sound. Even the claim we can’t know is a statement of faith.
My stating my opinion or you is what individuals do in discussing things, yet you want to call me out for this while it is nothing but us expressing our opinions.
Th ...[text shortened]... or anyone’s worldview it is what it is. You should spend more time contemplating the topic than me.
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@kellyjay saidIn which case you should abandon your God, as your reasoning is most certainly not sound.
If we are going to submit any claim about something that is either a singular event or beyond our ability to prove our reasoning needs to be sound.
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Born in a Christian country you found God and stopped looking.
Had you been born in Iraq you would have found Allah and stopped looking.
Had you been born in India you would have found Brahma and stopped looking. - And heaven forbid you had found Jainism, you would be here talking about an eternal universe.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI didn’t become a Christian until I was 25, I have more memories of watching my dad bounce my mom off walls in anger, then happy moments of them being together. I started doing drugs at a very young age and lived more for immediate pleasures than long lasting goals. Nothing about my environment growing up gave me a contrast with my life and Christianity.
It is a factual statement that most people born in India are Hindu, while most people born in Iraq are Muslim. Geography is the major reason people choose one religion over another, as it is the religion they have greater exposure to and are brought up with. Of course people change religions, but the vast majority do not. Again, your own religious choice is significan ...[text shortened]... in the fires of hell, you would delight in bad karma and the effects it has on our next incarnation.
So my life experiences are proof that your environment alone matters, it plays a part, but God, not culture is the only truth that causes one to become a Christian, it is a divine act of God, not a human endeavor or birthright.
@kellyjay saidIt is not just environmental but geographical reasons. Again, had you been born in India it is much more likely you would have found and stuck with Hinduism. (Even if this came when you were 25). You would have had less exposure to Christianity and been more familiar with Hindu teachings.
I didn’t become a Christian until I was 25, I have more memories of watching my dad bounce my mom off walls in anger, then happy moments of them being together. I started doing drugs at a very young age and lived more for immediate pleasures than long lasting goals. Nothing about my environment growing up gave me a contrast with my life and Christianity.
So my life ex ...[text shortened]... hat causes one to become a Christian, it is a divine act of God, not a human endeavor or birthright.
@kellyjay saidDo you really not know that all religions serve to help some people set themselves straight while others can't set themselves straight until they shake off the psychological trappings of theistic belief?
I didn’t become a Christian until I was 25, I have more memories of watching my dad bounce my mom off walls in anger, then happy moments of them being together. I started doing drugs at a very young age and lived more for immediate pleasures than long lasting goals. Nothing about my environment growing up gave me a contrast with my life and Christianity.
@kellyjay saidDoes your life experience cancel out the brute truth reality that the massive Facts On The Ground that the geographical and cultural evidence points to?
So my life experiences are proof that your environment alone matters, it plays a part, but God, not culture is the only truth that causes one to become a Christian, it is a divine act of God, not a human endeavor or birthright.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidGod when we stand before Him, His judgment is going to be about us and Him, giving an account for how we lived the life He gave us, not where we lived, or who our parents were, or how good or bad our cultures were.
It is not just environmental but geographical reasons. Again, had you been born in India it is much more likely you would have found and stuck with Hinduism. (Even if this came when you were 25). You would have had less exposure to Christianity and been more familiar with Hindu teachings.
That day all accounts will be settled the good and bad regardless of who we are here. God’s forbearance, love, mercy and life will be shown true our lives or not. Location and time will not matter!
@kellyjay saidYou have broken through the thin crust of in-bad-faith "discussion" and are now partaking of the generic faithspeak goo at the very core of your ministry.
God when we stand before Him, His judgment is going to be about us and Him, giving an account for how we lived the life He gave us, not where we lived, or who our parents were, or how good or bad our cultures were.
That day all accounts will be settled the good and bad regardless of who we are here. God’s forbearance, love, mercy and life will be shown true our lives or not. Location and time will not matter!