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    my goodness do we stink 🙁
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    25 Oct '10 11:29
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    my goodness do we stink 🙁
    Something dreadfully wrong with a management team that get rid of Shanahan to bring in a dummy coach who cannot seem to get anything out of his players! Raiders are not thtat good. To lose like this to a team with no QB is dreadful!
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    25 Oct '10 18:25
    Originally posted by scacchipazzo
    Something dreadfully wrong with a management team that get rid of Shanahan to bring in a dummy coach who cannot seem to get anything out of his players! Raiders are not thtat good. To lose like this to a team with no QB is dreadful!
    this time last year we were six wins with no losses, something is seriously wrong, Kyle Orton has second highest throwing yards i think in the NFL and yet we truly stink.
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    25 Oct '10 18:49
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie

    my goodness do we stink 🙁
    Denv/Oakl along with a few other Week #7 outcomes blindsided most everyone.
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    25 Oct '10 19:21
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    my goodness do we stink 🙁
    haha lost to a team that lost to the 49ers.
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    25 Oct '10 21:01
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Denv/Oakl along with a few other Week #7 outcomes blindsided most everyone.
    please forgive my ignorance, in what context is this Gramps?
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    25 Oct '10 21:012 edits
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    haha lost to a team that lost to the 49ers.
    the shame of it! 😳 saying that the cowboys aren't doing much better, the double shame of it 🙁 i knew i should of supported the Vikings!
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    25 Oct '10 21:35
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    please forgive my ignorance, in what context is this Gramps?
    In context of NFL long term parity/shorter term equilibrium, vigorish driven

    wagering distribution by LV Casinos and the premise of your timely thread.
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    25 Oct '10 23:51
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    In context of NFL long term parity/shorter term equilibrium, vigorish driven

    wagering distribution by LV Casinos and the premise of your timely thread.
    Gramps you know i am a peasant farmer who likes simple things expressed in a simple manner, free of ambiguity and the cloak of language, so while you may be a true beatnik poet able to distil with a single breath the very essence of language in a kind of abstract collage, i myself need some tangible basis with which to attach my scant understanding 🙂
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    26 Oct '10 08:14
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Gramps you know i am a peasant farmer who likes simple things expressed in a simple manner, free of ambiguity and the cloak of language, so while you may be a true beatnik poet able to distil with a single breath the very essence of language in a kind of abstract collage, i myself need some tangible basis with which to attach my scant understanding 🙂
    Why sure, Robbie. There are several relevant conversations during

    the past seven weeks in '2010 NFL Big Pond Pub' you may enjoy.
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    26 Oct '10 09:07
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Why sure, Robbie. There are several relevant conversations during

    the past seven weeks in '2010 NFL Big Pond Pub' you may enjoy.
    thanks Gramps your a gentleman to be sure 🙂
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    26 Oct '10 11:27
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    thanks Gramps your a gentleman to be sure 🙂
    GB knows football and many other things! Don't shift allegiances to the Cowboys. They may as ell have fork stuck in them!
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    26 Oct '10 16:24
    Originally posted by scacchipazzo
    GB knows football and many other things! Don't shift allegiances to the Cowboys. They may as ell have fork stuck in them!
    In many realms, talent alone isn't enough. Team focus, work ethic, character,

    insightful loyalty down/loyalty up leadership matter as greatly today as ever.
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    26 Oct '10 23:55
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    In many realms, talent alone isn't enough. Team focus, work ethic, character,

    insightful loyalty down/loyalty up leadership matter as greatly today as ever.
    Some things never change nor should they! Leadership is important and perhaps more so than talent!
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    27 Oct '10 06:32
    Originally posted by scacchipazzo

    Some things never change nor should they! Leadership is important and perhaps more so than talent!
    Well said.


    An NFL Franchise is clearly a unique high risk/reward proposition. Cannot have

    highest paid player at all positions. Must recruit and cultivate younger players.
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