1. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    04 Dec '06 21:19
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Wrong. Point spreads are to get 50% of the bets on one side and 50% on the other. So they usually merely reflect what the bookies think the betting public believe. All that a 6 point spread in a hypothetical game is saying is that Vegas believes a 6 point spread would even out the bets of the suckers.
    Oh, so Vegas picks handicappers who know what the public thinks, and don't care about results? Vegas would be out of business if that were true.

    These guys get awards for being right, and lose their jobs if they are wrong too often.

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    04 Dec '06 21:291 edit
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    Oh, so Vegas picks handicappers who know what the public thinks, and don't care about results? Vegas would be out of business if that were true.

    These guys get awards for being right, and lose their jobs if they are wrong too often.

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    Do you think handicappers set the point spreads?????

    Vegas doesn't care about the game results; if the money is bet evenly, the bookies win. Why do you think the point spreads change? Because the handicappers change their minds?
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    04 Dec '06 21:36
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Do you think handicappers set the point spreads?????

    Vegas doesn't care about the game results; if the money is bet evenly, the bookies win. Why do you think the point spreads change? Because the handicappers change their minds?
    Good point... the lines change depending how people bet.

    Hmmm... that's jacked up.

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    04 Dec '06 21:401 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Do you think handicappers set the point spreads?????

    Vegas doesn't care about the game results; if the money is bet evenly, the bookies win. Why do you think the point spreads change? Because the handicappers change their minds?
    LOL! Very instructive, N1M. It's amazing what people who bet do not know about the actual mechanics of gambling. Maybe we need a gambling forum.

    Successful professional gamblers never gamble, at least not intentionally.
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    04 Dec '06 23:40
    Originally posted by Delmer
    LOL! Very instructive, N1M. It's amazing what people who bet do not know about the actual mechanics of gambling. Maybe we need a gambling forum.

    Successful professional gamblers never gamble, at least not intentionally.
    Do you think I bet on sports? Wanna bet?!

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    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Only two teams from a conference are allowed in BCS games. Wisconsin doesn't deserve crap with the ridiculous out of conference schedule they played. Teams that can't even win their conference don't deserve a title shot. If you crybaby Big Ten fans don't like the fact that Michigan lost at OSU, get your weak sister conference to play a title game at a ne ...[text shortened]... ences do.

    You can always watch Michigan getting hammered by USC in the Rose Bowl.
    USC ain't nothin. They lost to two unranked teams, one of them being Oregon St. I never even heard of Oregon State until then!
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    I think an eight team playoff would be doable. Take the CHAMPIONS of the 6 BCS conferences - SEC, Big 12, ACC, Big East, Pac-10 and Big Ten - and add two conference champions from the mid-majors and/or the highest rated independents by the BCS formula. Have top seed play weakest seed, etc. etc. This year it would look like this:

    Ohio State v. Wake Forest
    Florida v. Notre Dame
    USC v. Oklahoma
    Louisville v. Boise State

    2nd round would be highest rated v. lowest rated survivors, etc.

    Don't know how you could fit the pre-existing bowls in, though.
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    05 Dec '06 00:081 edit
    Originally posted by Falco Lombardi
    USC ain't nothin. They lost to two unranked teams, one of them being Oregon St. I never even heard of Oregon State until then!
    They're a tougher team than Ball State; they finished 9-4 and won 7 of their last 8 - three against ranked teams.
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    05 Dec '06 00:35
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    I think an eight team playoff would be doable. Take the CHAMPIONS of the 6 BCS conferences - SEC, Big 12, ACC, Big East, Pac-10 and Big Ten - and add two conference champions from the mid-majors and/or the highest rated independents by the BCS formula. Have top seed play weakest seed, etc. etc. This year it would look like this:

    Ohio State v. ...[text shortened]... ted survivors, etc.

    Don't know how you could fit the pre-existing bowls in, though.
    That is the most moronic list I have ever read.

    Where's Michigan???


    Boise State should give you an award for talking them up. LOL
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    05 Dec '06 01:24
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    I think an eight team playoff would be doable. Take the CHAMPIONS of the 6 BCS conferences - SEC, Big 12, ACC, Big East, Pac-10 and Big Ten - and add two conference champions from the mid-majors and/or the highest rated independents by the BCS formula. Have top seed play weakest seed, etc. etc. This year it would look like this:

    Ohio State v. ...[text shortened]... ted survivors, etc.

    Don't know how you could fit the pre-existing bowls in, though.
    And Michigan isn't even in there?
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    05 Dec '06 01:26
    Originally posted by Red Night
    That is the most moronic list I have ever read.

    Where's Michigan???


    Boise State should give you an award for talking them up. LOL
    No1 said the winners of each of the 6 main divisions, which he listed accordingly.
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    05 Dec '06 04:382 edits
    Originally posted by Red Night
    That is the most moronic list I have ever read.

    Where's Michigan???


    Boise State should give you an award for talking them up. LOL
    Speaking of morons ........ what part about the CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS did you miss? Boise State's playing in a BCS bowl, in case you missed it. In fact, that "moronic list" contains 8 of the 10 BCS bowl teams, numbnuts.
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    05 Dec '06 04:40
    Originally posted by Falco Lombardi
    And Michigan isn't even in there?
    If you can't win your conference, you don't deserve the shot. Otherwise the regular season would be devalued.
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    05 Dec '06 04:51
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Speaking of morons ........ what part about the CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS did you miss? Boise State's playing in a BCS bowl, in case you missed it. In fact, that "moronic list" contains 8 of the 10 BCS bowl teams, numbnuts.
    The entire controversy surrounds the question of whether Michigan, which got passed over twice, should have gotten a chance at the title game.

    Michigan or Florida: that is what the whole country is debating.

    And you come up with a "solution" that leaves Michigan out???

    You hae redefined the word ridiculous
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    05 Dec '06 05:012 edits
    Originally posted by Red Night
    The entire controversy surrounds the question of whether Michigan, which got passed over twice, should have gotten a chance at the title game.

    Michigan or Florida: that is what the whole country is debating.

    And you come up with a "solution" that leaves Michigan out???

    You hae redefined the word ridiculous
    Do you actually have an argument, you retard? The people that count decided a rematch FOR THE NATIONAL TITLE was stupid. I agree. If the Big Ten wants rematches, let them play a conference title game on a neutral site. Otherwise, you idiots should STFU.
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