09 Apr 07
Originally posted by eatmybishopNope. It is still being outclassed by the Italian and Spanish leagues. I read somewhere not long ago that there are more goals scored in Serie A matches than in the EPL. I will try and track it down.
italian football full of scandal (and pretty boring too lets be honest) and only valencia still flying the flag for spanish football in the champions league.... is it now time for the premiership to take the "greatest league in the world" crown?
09 Apr 07
Originally posted by Esotericspanish maybe but italian... no... the premiership has outclassed the italian league for a few years running now, and now most football journalists are in agreement the epl has outclassed the spanish...
Nope. It is still being outclassed by the Italian and Spanish leagues. I read somewhere not long ago that there are more goals scored in Serie A matches than in the EPL. I will try and track it down.
name me three of the world's greatest players... ronaldo, henry (or gerrard) and ronaldinho... where do two of three players play?
09 Apr 07
Originally posted by eatmybishopHa ha ha Ronaldo??? I guessing you are talking about Christiano right. World class? C'mon, he is very good, but he is not one of the elite. I'll agree Henry is, but Gerrard? Seriously?
spanish maybe but italian... no... the premiership has outclassed the italian league for a few years running now, and now most football journalists are in agreement the epl has outclassed the spanish...
name me three of the world's greatest players... ronaldo, henry (or gerrard) and ronaldinho... where do two of three players play?
Want to talk about the worlds best players? Kaka, Pirlo, Cannavaro, Ronaldinho, Figo, Adriano, Ronaldo, Dida, Cafu, Messi...
When it comes to elite players you can't compare the EPL with Serie A or La Liga.
Only English people think the EPL is of a better calibre than the rest.
10 Apr 07
Originally posted by EsotericKaka, Ronaldinho and Messi - great players....
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Want to talk about the worlds best players? Kaka, Pirlo, Cannavaro, Ronaldinho, Figo, Adriano, Ronaldo, Dida, Cafu, Messi...
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Adriano is just useless.....when does he ever play to his ability?? He was absolutely clueless during the world cup and I've not seen much greatness from him this season either - a shame as he is a fantastic talent.
Dida, Cafu, Ronaldo (brazilian one), Figo - are we just listing formerly great players who are now old and well past their best......come on lets have some current quality and some youngsters coming through.
I hate Cristiano Ronaldo, but he would be chosen ahead of those above by probably every manger in world football at present - he has been phenomenal this season - the only reason Utd are doing well.
As you say EPL hasn't any good players (?) - Shevchenko, Ballack, Lampard, Ronaldo, Xavi Alonso, Terry, Fabregas, Henry, Rooney.....
Coem on lest be fair - all three leagues are decent now..........
10 Apr 07
Originally posted by SeitseI reckon any player who continually gets his head to "push it and score" would be a fixture in any team and considered a great player.....after all that is the idea of the game.
Quality players go to Spain where, unlike England, the ball stays
more time on the ground than flying -waiting for a head to push it
and score.
The spanish game is much more technical generally - totally agree with that. Get rid of the diving, acting and general crap like that and it would be a joy to watch....
The english game is a more physical game generally - doesn't make the players worse or the game less relevant - it's just a different style of play......
And good players go to all the top leagues, not just Spain.
Ever watch Arsenal play?? They play a spanish style of play, unfortunately they sometimes struggle to match teams that "get at them" - Barca were the same when they played Liverpool this year....
10 Apr 07
Originally posted by CityblueI totally agree. I guess then it's about what kind of football one
I reckon any player who continually gets his head to "push it and score" would be a fixture in any team and considered a great player.....after all that is the idea of the game.
The spanish game is much more technical generally - totally agree with that. Get rid of the diving, acting and general crap like that and it would be a joy to watch....
The en ...[text shortened]... ch teams that "get at them" - Barca were the same when they played Liverpool this year....
likes. Those who prefer more strength definitely prefer the English
league and those who prefer more tech go for La Liga.
Personally, I just feel that some tremendous teams in England are
'underused' by their coach's style, really.
Then again, you have Rafa Benitez putting the Spanish seal in a
tremendous team.
Maybe that's the problem. A new generation of coaches should come
and shake the English league.
10 Apr 07
Originally posted by SeitseYou're probably right......maybe one day someone will manage to get the technical ability and physical ability in the same team!! That would be a great team...
I totally agree. I guess then it's about what kind of football one
likes. Those who prefer more strength definitely prefer the English
league and those who prefer more tech go for La Liga.
Personally, I just feel that some tremendous teams in England are
'underused' by their coach's style, really.
Then again, you have Rafa Benitez putting the Spanish ...[text shortened]... that's the problem. A new generation of coaches should come
and shake the English league.
I suppose Liverpool and Arsenal want to - but haven't managed it yet...
One frustrating thing from an Englishmans point of view is why our national team trys to play a technical game?! They may be Ok but againts the top teams we're simply not good enough technically......but we know that most teams don't like it when England really go at them 100mph all over the pitch!!
10 Apr 07
From an entertainment point of view, look at the current La Liga table:
Team P W D L F A Pts
Barcelona 29 16 8 5 59 27 56
Sevilla 29 16 7 6 48 24 55
Real Madrid 29 16 6 7 41 25 54
Real Zaragoza 29 14 8 7 43 29 50
Valencia 29 15 5 9 40 29 50
Atletico Madrid 29 13 8 8 34 24 47
I sure wish the EPL would look similar to this near the end of the season. When was the last time the EPL had 6th place only 9 points off the top with only a few games to go? Over the past few EPL seasons the distance between 1st and 4th in points at the end of the season has increased - 12,16,16,30,34, to 24 last season. Currently it's 22.
10 Apr 07
Originally posted by ElleEffSeeeI think most fans in EPL agree with that view 😉
From an entertainment point of view, look at the current La Liga table:
Team P W D L F A Pts
Barcelona 29 16 8 5 59 27 56
Sevilla 29 16 7 6 48 24 55
Real Madrid 29 16 6 7 41 25 54
Real Zaragoza 29 14 8 7 43 29 50
Valencia 29 15 5 9 40 29 50
Atletico Madrid 29 13 8 8 34 24 47
I sure wish the EPL ...[text shortened]... at the end of the season has increased - 12,16,16,30,34, to 24 last season. Currently it's 22.
10 Apr 07
Originally posted by eatmybishopItalians outclass the Premiership hands down !!!
italian football full of scandal (and pretty boring too lets be honest) and only valencia still flying the flag for spanish football in the champions league.... is it now time for the premiership to take the "greatest league in the world" crown?
10 Apr 07
Originally posted by Jay Joosin terms of scandal and paid off players - yes - i agree
Italians outclass the Premiership hands down !!!
the italian league is special i will say that - it has the only games in the world where you can walk away, make a cup of tea, have a chat with the neighbour, come back and the ball is still in the same place
10 Apr 07
Originally posted by Esotericcan you name any player under 25??? no of course you cant, they're all in the premiership... most sports writers across europe are in agreement ronaldo is now the greatest in the world.... i hate him, but i would have to agree
Ha ha ha Ronaldo??? I guessing you are talking about Christiano right. World class? C'mon, he is very good, but he is not one of the elite. I'll agree Henry is, but Gerrard? Seriously?
Want to talk about the worlds best players? Kaka, Pirlo, Cannavaro, Ronaldinho, Figo, Adriano, Ronaldo, Dida, Cafu, Messi...
When it comes to elite players you can't c ...[text shortened]... rie A or La Liga.
Only English people think the EPL is of a better calibre than the rest.