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the fact that soccer frequently ends in a tie is enough evidence that its better kept for the europeans. americans like to win. thats what we do
Originally posted by sh76the situation in the middlesbrough match doesnt happend often as this was a cup match (european cup games have 2 matches home and away and the two scores are added for the win) most games are league matches and are for points. for me its not afainst competitive sport nature, lots of sports have very differing rules on what a win is and how much you need win,the needing 4 goals sets up a unique situation in which the home team has to throw caution to the wind, role up their sleeves and have the game of their lifes. but 4 goals in a game is not rare in the premier league (english) which i think is averages around 3 goals a game, this season we have had several 5-0,6-0 games between big teams. i could argue that the situation of a last minute touch down in a big game doesnt happen that often in football. thats what makes it brilliant when it does happen. people go crazy when a goals is scored because its hard work getting one and the skill involved can unbelievable. if the score was 20-18 every game goals would loose their value.
Anyway, about the 4 goal game, yes, but that doesn't happen all that often, does it?
And incidentally, I hate the idea of the score determining the outcome of a championship. A win is a win is a win. For a team to be up 3-2, but need another goal to win 4-2 strikes me as being against the very nature of competitive sports.
To quote the great Herm Edward ...[text shortened]... ave a better solution, but that it has to come to that is an indictment of the sport.
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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperrugby as the same physical differences between the players as football and also a range of specific jobs they are employed to do.
A lot of good points have already been made, but I will add that I don't think soccer is as unpopular in the US as conventional wisdom suggests. While it's certainly not as popular as the big four, it still comprises a small part if US culture - "soccer moms" anyone? They're hawt.
I think mainly it's just happenstance. We already have sports wi ...[text shortened]... hat gains the most international appeal? Freaking baseball, a game I find quite boring.
Originally posted by stellspalfieNo doubt rugby positions have differing body types and skill sets, but nowhere near to the extreme of American football, where you have 185 pound players on the same field with some guys weighing over 300 pounds.
rugby as the same physical differences between the players as football and also a range of specific jobs they are employed to do.
what makes football a great team sport? from the outside it seem each player has a job they need to stick to for each play and dont really interact with their team during the play. soccer is about combining together, passi ...[text shortened]... would be the bottom of the list. id say basketball has to be the biggest. its played everywhere.
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperBaseball is a thinking man's game.
A lot of good points have already been made, but I will add that I don't think soccer is as unpopular in the US as conventional wisdom suggests. While it's certainly not as popular as the big four, it still comprises a small part if US culture - "soccer moms" anyone? They're hawt.
I think mainly it's just happenstance. We already have sports wi ...[text shortened]... hat gains the most international appeal? Freaking baseball, a game I find quite boring.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI agree, especially about some people thinking chess is boring. It's difficult to quantify for comparison sake but football is also very much a thinking man's sport, and gets very technical from what type of formations to run against which defense, match ups, play calling and decisions made by the QB. But you also get fast paced action and hard hitting brutality 😉
Baseball is a thinking man's game.
If you "watch" baseball as a seat cover, I can see how one might get bored.
However, when you watch it at the sophisticated level, the anticipation of moves,
the execution of plays, it is more of a virtual chess game.
Some people will even say chess is boring.
Originally posted by stellspalfieSimple. Soccer is like most team sports now where the focus is playing a system. Creativity is shunned and standard play is thrown at the viewer consistently. Most teams can't compete with the big spenders and are forced to play defensive shells hoping for a tie or a lucky bounce.
i interested to know, what is it about soccer* american football fans hate so much? is it the low scorelines? what games have they watched to develop their opinions from? do american football fans generally like other team sports? is it just american sports they like? do they like rugby? i need to understand why the beautiful game is hated so much. i wa ...[text shortened]... ther sports around at the time that goes by the name of football. which of coarse is football.
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperon the contrary, we dont need to be padded up to enjoy full contact sport, rugby
No doubt rugby positions have differing body types and skill sets, but nowhere near to the extreme of American football, where you have 185 pound players on the same field with some guys weighing over 300 pounds.
In almost all team sports (sans baseball) all players interact with great frequency, but the fact that some don't in football doesn't at regard than any other sport that I can think of, but it's still not to the same extreme.
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperMore American ignorance shinning through. Do some research before posting... google 'Peter Stringer'... one of many little people who play rugby. Then have a look at a scrum.
No doubt rugby positions have differing body types and skill sets, but nowhere near to the extreme of American football, where you have 185 pound players on the same field with some guys weighing over 300 pounds.
Originally posted by stellspalfieI'm pretty sure basketball was invented by a Canadian... not sure who invented hockey but i wouldn't call it an American sport.
is baseball the biggest of the american sports internationally. i thought it would be the bottom of the list. id say basketball has to be the biggest. its played everywhere.
Originally posted by Trev33Riiiight.. and Google Spud Webb. That's my proof that basketball players vary so widely. No, wait. He's one of the smallest professional players to have ever played the game. That would be totally dishonest of me to use as an example.
More American ignorance shinning through. Do some research before posting... google 'Peter Stringer'... one of many little people who play rugby. Then have a look at a scrum.
Originally posted by stellspalfieI do not find it boring. It's what I played as a youngster instead of American football, baseball, or basketball. I'll watch a match whenever I get the chance.
i interested to know, what is it about soccer* american football fans hate so much? is it the low scorelines? what games have they watched to develop their opinions from? do american football fans generally like other team sports? is it just american sports they like? do they like rugby? i need to understand why the beautiful game is hated so much. i wa ...[text shortened]... ther sports around at the time that goes by the name of football. which of coarse is football.
Originally posted by stellspalfieFootball requires tremendous creativity. On offense, you need to decide whether to run or pass, to run right, left or center? A sweep, a draw a pitch? Do you give it to the fullback or halfback? A QB keeper?
the situation in the middlesbrough match doesnt happend often as this was a cup match (european cup games have 2 matches home and away and the two scores are added for the win) most games are league matches and are for points. for me its not afainst competitive sport nature, lots of sports have very differing rules on what a win is and how much you need ...[text shortened]... l fans feel about football or is it not deemed manly or important to have beauty and creativity?