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    19 May '09 19:30
    Originally posted by darvlay
    I would definitely say so, yes. Varese and Stockhausen were certainly pioneers but let's not confuse pioneering with influence.
    Well, Kraftwerk didn't come up with their ideas out of the blue. Even in the krautrock scene they weren't the first to experiment with electronics.
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    19 May '09 19:38
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Well, Kraftwerk didn't come up with their ideas out of the blue. Even in the krautrock scene they weren't the first to experiment with electronics.
    Sorry, what are we talking about here? Influence or who thought of what first? If it's the latter then let's just say everything is derivative of Gregorian chant.
  3. Standard memberPalynka
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    19 May '09 19:39
    Originally posted by darvlay
    Sorry, what are we talking about here? Influence or who thought of what first? If it's the latter then let's just say everything is derivative of Gregorian chant.
    It all started with the drum!
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    19 May '09 19:40
    Originally posted by Palynka
    It all started with the drum!
    Drum is my main influence. This is not a coincidence.
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    19 May '09 20:59
    Originally posted by darvlay
    Sorry, what are we talking about here? Influence or who thought of what first? If it's the latter then let's just say everything is derivative of Gregorian chant.
    Influence.
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    20 May '09 20:38
    Can I throw in The Velvet Underground for consideration?
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    20 May '09 21:441 edit
    Originally posted by DrKF
    Can I throw in The Velvet Underground for consideration?
    Of course! Though they have been mentioned several times. 😛
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    21 May '09 16:37
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Yeah, the Beach Boys made some decent stuff, but I wouldn't say they are particularly influential.
    well, for example there wouldn't have been a sgt.pepper without pet sounds.
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    21 May '09 16:39
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Well, the Beatles are boring, and so are most indie rock bands - especially those formed after Oasis killed the genre in 1995.

    The Beatles are THE prototype for a generic pop band.

    The Velvet Underground are THE prototype for an artistic pop band.
    my world was never the same after "tomorrow never knows".
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    21 May '09 17:30
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    well, for example there wouldn't have been a sgt.pepper without pet sounds.
    Hmm, well that's more of a negative influence.
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    21 May '09 17:36
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Hmm, well that's more of a negative influence.
    How so?
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    21 May '09 21:19
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    How so?
    Because the Beatles spawned even more uninspired and boring middle-of-the-road rock bands that are currently poisoning the minds of my peers.
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    22 May '09 10:40
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Because the Beatles spawned even more uninspired and boring middle-of-the-road rock bands that are currently poisoning the minds of my peers.
    Ha! Agreed - I have come to think of The Beatles as the most over-hyped band ever, whose influence has been, by and large, malign.
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    22 May '09 10:44
    Watching '24-Hour Party People' the other night I was reminded that Ian Curtis was surely a most influential rock musician.
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    22 May '09 16:58
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Because the Beatles spawned even more uninspired and boring middle-of-the-road rock bands that are currently poisoning the minds of my peers.
    its not the beatles' fault that other losers tried to copy them and failed e.g Oasis, that obviously based their whole carrear on the song "rain".
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