22 May 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraTry watching the episode of the BBC's "Seven Ages Of Rock" where Noel Gallagher talks about the rivalry between Oasis and Blur. What a small minded man Mr Gallagher is - regardless of how much money he made. Textbook plonker.
That's true I guess, I sure loathe Oasis a lot more than the Beatles.
22 May 09
Originally posted by FMFgallagher is a pr**k.
Try watching the episode of the BBC's "Seven Ages Of Rock" where Noel Gallagher talks about the rivalry between Oasis and Blur. What a small minded man Mr Gallagher is - regardless of how much money he made. Textbook plonker.
and Oasis is just an overrated bad cover band of the beatles.
23 May 09
Originally posted by generalissimoYes, that is true, but when pondering which were the most influential rock musicians one should only consider actual rock musicians, otherwise it would be a rather pointless exercise.
without the blues there wouldn't have been rock'n'roll.
I think he has a point.
23 May 09
Originally posted by FMFNot understanding (apparently) the point, FMF, is actually one of your characteristics.
Yes, and as ever, you didn't get my point.
I was conceding his rather "arch" point, and commenting on that. Did you not get my point?
If we are now talking about Rock, how about Jefferson Airpalne and After Bathing at Baxter's? Beats the Grateful Dead.
24 May 09
Originally posted by znshoThe Grateful Dead lasted for 30 years and spawned/inspired hundreds, maybe thousands, of jambands in the USA and around the world - the hugely successful and culturally iconic Phish being just one of them. Jerry Garcia is probably one of the ten must culturally influential Americans of the last 200 years - although I wouldn't put him in the top 5 influential musicians.
If we are now talking about Rock, how about Jefferson Airpalne and After Bathing at Baxter's? Beats the Grateful Dead.
On the other hand, Jefferson Airplane - a band whose music I love, and to which I have returned again and again over the last 30 years - were relatively a 'flash in the pan' and I can scarcely think of a single band that were influenced by them. Big Brother and The Holding Company were peers, and most other West Coast anthemic bands that were Airplane-like came and went during a short era, and had little impact.
What this all means is that both Jefferson Airplane and the Grateful Dead have the venerable distinction of being groundbreaking, largely inimitable and iconic, but with the benefit of musicological hindsight, we can easily see that Jefferson Airplane did not have the same impact or influence on the music of the last 40 years that the Grateful Dead did.
Having said that, neither Jefferson Airplane nor the Grateful Dead belong in the Top Five. Probably not the Top Ten either, despite my own private, passionate predilections!
24 May 09
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Originally posted by FMFJefferson Airplane were hugely influential in the whole psychedelic scene and everything that it spawned; from heavy metal (I have a Jefferson Airplane cover by a doom metal band) to psychedelic folk to krautrock to modern electronic music. I would say they are more influential than the Grateful Dead, whose influence has been limited to folk and jam bands.
The Grateful Dead lasted for 30 years and spawned/inspired hundreds, maybe thousands, of jambands in the USA and around the world - the hugely successful and culturally iconic Phish being just one of them. Jerry Garcia is probably one of the ten must culturally influential Americans of the last 200 years - although I wouldn't put him in the top 5 influent Top Five. Probably not the Top Ten either, despite my own private, passionate predilections!