24 May 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraNever heard anyone claim Jefferson Airplane spawned heavy metal, not when there's Jimi Hendrix and The Who on the musicology chart, with conspicuously more legitimate claims.
Jefferson Airplane were hugely influential in the whole psychedelic scene and everything that it spawned; from heavy metal
I cannot think of a single track of the Airplane which might be described as 'heavy metal'.
As for your citing krautrock and modern electronic music in regard to Jefferson Airplane's influence, I am curious. Can't say I know what you mean. But I am open to the idea if you wish to elucidate.
24 May 09
Originally posted by FMFJA inspired Donovan - Fat Angel.
Never heard anyone claim Jefferson Airplane spawned heavy metal, not when there's Jimi Hendrix and The Who on the musicology chart, with conspicuously more legitimate claims.
I cannot think of a single track of the Airplane which might be described as 'heavy metal'.
As for your citing krautrock and modern electronic music in regard to Jefferson Airplane's ...[text shortened]... urious. Can't say I know what you mean. But I am open to the idea if you wish to elucidate.
And, there was In Tua Nua.
24 May 09
Originally posted by FMFWell, weren't Jefferson Airplane an influence to Blue Cheer and Amon Düül II? I would say they had at least some influence on them.
Never heard anyone claim Jefferson Airplane spawned heavy metal, not when there's Jimi Hendrix and The Who on the musicology chart, with conspicuously more legitimate claims.
I cannot think of a single track of the Airplane which might be described as 'heavy metal'.
As for your citing krautrock and modern electronic music in regard to Jefferson Airplane's ...[text shortened]... urious. Can't say I know what you mean. But I am open to the idea if you wish to elucidate.
As for electronic music; the IDM scene has been significantly influenced by 60s/70s psychedelic music.
24 May 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraYou have got me intrigued. In what way did JA influence Amon Duul II?
Well, weren't Jefferson Airplane an influence to Blue Cheer and Amon Düül II? I would say they had at least some influence on them.
As for electronic music; the IDM scene has been significantly influenced by 60s/70s psychedelic music.
Hm! Spare Chaynge? Yes, maybe you are right!
25 May 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraIt also depends on perceptions... for example, would you not call "Rocket 88" a rock song?
Yes, that is true, but when pondering which were the most influential rock musicians one should only consider actual rock musicians, otherwise it would be a rather pointless exercise.
25 May 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraa review i read
In what way haven't they? Phallus Dei clearly isn't the first psychedelic album ever made.
This is Amon Duul II's first album, and it's everything that the American psych/freakout bands promised but could not deliver. These guys are so lysergic that they make the Grateful Dead and the Jefferson Airplane, their american contemporaries at the time (1969) sound like coffee drinking office secretaries by comparison. Furiously surging, ebbing and flowing, the music combines elements of garage rock, avant-garde, psychedelia, and just plain all-out weirdness. The end effect is like being submerged in the ocean of an alien planet. All the lyrics are in German but it doesn't matter; what matters is that you will be swept away. This band should be ranked far above most of their American psych contemporaries. Truly psychedelic music, not for the faint of heart, but spiral into the Duulian atmosphere and you may never return
25 May 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYeah. Just what music journalism needs. Writers with brain transplants from sports fans. Lysergicity is in the blood stream of the beholder.
This is Amon Duul II's first album, and it's everything that the American psych/freakout bands promised but could not deliver. These guys are so lysergic that [b]they make the Grateful Dead and the Jefferson Airplane, their american contemporaries at the time (1969) sound like coffee drinking office secretaries by comparison.[/b]
25 May 09
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieOh I agree, I prefer Amon Düül II over Jefferson Airplane (and certainly the Dead!) any day. Phallus Dei is a freaky, but very intense album that everyone should have a listen to.
a review i read
This is Amon Duul II's first album, and it's everything that the American psych/freakout bands promised but could not deliver. These guys are so lysergic that [b]they make the Grateful Dead and the Jefferson Airplane, their american contemporaries at the time (1969) sound like coffee drinking office secretaries by comparison. F , not for the faint of heart, but spiral into the Duulian atmosphere and you may never return[/b]
And the lyrics sound more like a bunch of shaman smoking too much funny stuff than German anyway...
25 May 09
Originally posted by FMFoh touchy touchy touchy FMF, did he state that your beloved Grateful dead were woosies, its only his perspective, nothing more, perhaps they needed more lysergicity to transcend themselves, perhaps there were still faint traces of egocentricity lurking in the recesses of their minds, shackling them them to the earth, whence others were able to break the gravitational field and move upwards and outwards, who can tell. Do you like vanilla fudge, i thought they were awesome. 🙂
Yeah. Just what music journalism needs. Writers with brain transplants from sports fans. Lysergicity is in the blood stream of the beholder.
26 May 09
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYour attempt to belittle my reaction - which is "only [my]perspective", and ironic, after all - is noted. Touchy? "Woosies"? No. It was rubbish writing. Amon Düül II are fantastic. Got all their stuff. As are the Dead and the Airplane. But this kind of sports fan type rock writing you quoted - one group of musicians makes another group of artists seem like "coffee drinking office secretaries"?? - is why I have for years read as little of the 'music press' as I can. Music is all about winners and losers , is it? Gotta kick other music's arse, has it? A mix of drug referencing dick waving and clumsy hyperbole. Save it for pro sports and embedded war journalism.
oh touchy touchy touchy FMF, did he state that your beloved Grateful dead were woosies, its only his perspective, nothing more