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    So as I keep asserting then, there is no one in the EU who is directly accountable for the Article 16 fiasco?

    This of accountability speaks directly to the lack of democratic principle within the structure of the EU leadership.

    Thanks for demonstrating my point.
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    You don't think the EU's long-term policy on the Good Friday Agreement, aimed at securing peace on the island of Ireland is important? That foolishly jeopardising this is merely a storm in a teacup?
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    Leaving metaphorical storms (of any size) aside for the moment, and focusing on my question, which I’ve put to you about 6 times now...

    Who in your opinion, in the EU, is directly responsible and accountable for triggering the Article 16 clause and causing this political debacle?

    It seem like no one is accountable and responsible, which really does underline what I’ve been saying about the undemocratic nature of the EU itself.
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    @divegeester said
    Leaving metaphorical storms (of any size) aside for the moment, and focusing on my question, which I’ve put to you about 6 times now...

    Who in your opinion, in the EU, is directly responsible and accountable for triggering the Article 16 clause and causing this political debacle?

    It seem like no one is accountable and responsible, which really does underline what I’ve been saying about the undemocratic nature of the EU itself.
    I’ve told you multiple times.
    Also, you can just google it and get your answers.
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    @shavixmir said
    I’ve told you multiple times.
    Also, you can just google it and get your answers.
    Holy crap dude, will you stfu and drink your beer... I’m talking to the duchess!
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    @divegeester said
    Leaving metaphorical storms (of any size) aside for the moment, and focusing on my question, which I’ve put to you about 6 times now...

    Who in your opinion, in the EU, is directly responsible and accountable for triggering the Article 16 clause and causing this political debacle?

    It seem like no one is accountable and responsible, which really does underline what I’ve been saying about the undemocratic nature of the EU itself.
    Duchess64?
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    Still waiting duchess...
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    Duchess64...
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    If you are a member of a club you are entitled to the perks and privileges of the club.

    Britain is not a member of the club anymore so how can they expect to have the perks and privileges?

    You want to go it alone and you didn't realize that Northern Ireland would be a big headache for you.

    Finally the chickens are coming home to roost.
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    @Duchess64

    Who in your opinion, in the EU, is directly responsible and accountable for triggering the Article 16 clause and causing this political debacle?

    Or, and in fact, who in the EU is responsible for anything?
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    @divegeester said
    @Duchess64

    Who in your opinion, in the EU, is directly responsible and accountable for triggering the Article 16 clause and causing this political debacle?

    Or, and in fact, who in the EU is responsible for anything?
    I’ve already answered this.

    Let me pose you a question:
    The EU commission proposed, ignorantly, to invoke article 16. Within hours they were dragged by the scruff of their ears into reality and Mrs. L. has now officially appologised as well. Quite rightly but I don’t suppose she’ll last much longer anyways...

    Boris the Johnson and his government tried to pass a bill for months to circumvent article 16, against international law, and only by intervention by the first chamber (house of Lords) did it get stopped.

    Which of the two would you say is worse?
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