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@no1marauder said
That's just a stereotype; I know of no actual evidence that Chinese "culture" puts any more value on education than US, European or other "cultures".
Really?!?!?

Are you saying that Chinese Americans achieve academically at a high level because of genetics??

My my. You have an interesting view of life.

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@kegge said
Quote: I'll go out of my way to help get you tossed out of here.

You'll need luck because you will be of no influence whatsoever.
Really??? - no influence whatsoever???

how the hell do you think you had your post removed.

MOI. that's how.

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@earl-of-trumps said
Really?!?!?

Are you saying that Chinese Americans achieve academically at a high level because of genetics??

My my. You have an interesting view of life.
Obviously not.

I've already presented the views of academics as to why certain Asian ethnic groups median educational achievement level is high in the US. That their particular ethnic group's "culture" values education more than others was absent.

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@athousandyoung said
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_examination
I'm aware of this practice, but fail to see how it shows some "cultural" commitment to education. Few took the imperial examination and even fewer benefited from doing so. During the 276 year Qing Dynasty, only 112 such examinations were held and only 26,622 passed it. That hardly shows an overall "culture" commitment to education.

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@no1marauder said
Obviously not.

I've already presented the views of academics as to why certain Asian ethnic groups median educational achievement level is high in the US. That their particular ethnic group's "culture" values education more than others was absent.
So tell us then, No1....

Could Caucasian and African American societies learn from enlightened Chinese Americans?
That might be a way to create the equality in education you seem to desire

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@no1marauder said
I'm aware of this practice, but fail to see how it shows some "cultural" commitment to education. Few took the imperial examination and even fewer benefited from doing so. During the 276 year Qing Dynasty, only 112 such examinations were held and only 26,622 passed it. That hardly shows an overall "culture" commitment to education.
I don't think holding examinations every 2-3 years for nearly 3 centuries is worthy of an "only" qualifier. How often has the USA held such exams over the same length of time? Or Imperial Spain? Or the Mongol Empire? Or etc...

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@earl-of-trumps said
So tell us then, No1....

Could Caucasian and African American societies learn from enlightened Chinese Americans?
That might be a way to create the equality in education you seem to desire
Yes. Chinese society emphasizes academic achievement instead of violent conquest, ideas of racial superiority, inherited wealth etc. In other words they are more like American liberals than conservatives.

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@athousandyoung said
Yes. Chinese society emphasizes academic achievement instead of violent conquest, ideas of racial superiority, inherited wealth etc. In other words they are more like American liberals than conservatives.
<smiles> Really?!?!? More like American liberals than conservatives??? lol

You think the Chinese Americans emulate the "peaceful protesters" in Portland and Seattle?

Silly ATYY

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@earl-of-trumps said
<smiles> Really?!?!? More like American liberals than conservatives??? lol

You think the Chinese Americans emulate the "peaceful protesters" in Portland and Seattle?

Silly ATYY
I'd being willing to wager that a fair amount of present Chinese Americans did engage in protests for social justice including some who survived Tiananmen Square, 1989.

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@earl-of-trumps said
<smiles> Really?!?!? More like American liberals than conservatives??? lol

You think the Chinese Americans emulate the "peaceful protesters" in Portland and Seattle?

Silly ATYY
They left China for a reason...

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/08/16/students-and-university-educated-young-people-play-central-role-hong-kong-protests

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Anyone who's been to the Orient knows that the proportions of stupidity vs. intelligence are equally comparable to the rest of the world.

Save the American South which is saturated with ignorance and happy to be so.

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@no1marauder said
That's just a stereotype; I know of no actual evidence that Chinese "culture" puts any more value on education than US, European or other "cultures".
Did you notice that I cited India and Africa rather than China of which I have no knowledge.

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@kevcvs57 said
Did you notice that I cited India and Africa rather than China of which I have no knowledge.
It's hardly worth bickering about BUT:

@earl-of-trumps said
Like what sort of value does a given society place on education. Asians are TOPS.


Kev: Well yes that’s true and noted over here as well, culturally they put a much higher value on education which is relatively hard earned in places like India and Africa.

"They" in your post obviously refers to the "Asians" Earl is claiming put a higher cultural value on education. So you can change my "Chinese" to "Asians" if you prefer; I still dispute the claim.

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@no1marauder said
It's hardly worth bickering about BUT:

@earl-of-trumps said
Like what sort of value does a given society place on education. Asians are TOPS.


Kev: Well yes that’s true and noted over here as well, culturally they put a much higher value on education which is relatively hard earned in places like India and Africa.

"They" in your post obviously ref ...[text shortened]... e on education. So you can change my "Chinese" to "Asians" if you prefer; I still dispute the claim.
You can dispute it. Do you have any idea why Asian students outperform caucasian, latino, and black students?

Or do you even believe *that* much?

Hard for me to say since you totally rejected the three links I showed you in here
with the graphs of the GPA data and you rejected them out-of-hand.

So tell us what is really going on?

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@earl-of-trumps said
You can dispute it. Do you have any idea why Asian students outperform caucasian, latino, and black students?

Or do you even believe *that* much?

Hard for me to say since you totally rejected the three links I showed you in here
with the graphs of the GPA data and you rejected them out-of-hand.

So tell us what is really going on?
I dealt with such claims all the way back on p. 2 of this thread in multiple posts. I suggest you review them.

The short version is that Asian immigrants to the US are atypical and hyperselected being themselves or their family far more educated than the average person in their home country and of native Americans. Their academic achievements here are also helped by favorable racial stereotypes, such as the ones you hold.