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Originally posted by uzless
Instead of answering the question, you attack the question...you'd make a great politician.

Will you be able to understand the similie if I change the example to a guy who picks his nose and sticks it in his hair instead of using hair gel? Or, a girl gets a fake beard tatoo'd on her face? etc etc
Agreed. Palynka is known for not making much sense. And, when
he/she feels cornered, runs to sophismas or goes personal instead
of aiming the fact.

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Originally posted by uzless
stop pretending that "judging someone" is a bad thing. It's a criticism that is an overused, misplaced misnomer that people use as an excuse to mask their own personal deviances. "don't judge me" is a joke.

If a person says to you, "I like to rape people, care to have a drink with me?", are you going to then say to yourself, "well, i'm not supposed to ju ...[text shortened]... said earlier, If people want to swim in the shallow end, I say let em.
Palynka made a good point on this one, so I won't make the same. Ok, I
will. How is judging someone based on their looks in any way similar to
judging someone based on their actions?

The first is superficial and not very useful (despite your amusing water
analogy) and the other is quite important.

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Try to understand this, Palinka, please:

Questions are not evil by themselves. Actually, they are
the core of human knowledge and development.

Repeat the latter sentence 100 times.

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Originally posted by Seitse
Repeat the latter sentence 100 times.
That would be brainwashing. 😛

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Originally posted by Seitse
And now the donkey speaks about ears, lol.

If you would really understand social sciences, you should now that
critic analysis is a fundamental aprt of how institutions can change,
but asserting that individuals are capable of consciously changing
them is naive, to say the least.

That's why institutionalism is such an interesting research area. If
i ...[text shortened]... l. Analysis require to be
harsh, to judge, while recognizing people's fundamental rights.
It's as naive as thinking that voting makes a difference. I play my part, I defend what I believe institutions should be (and evidently so do you, as can be seen in this thread) and through discussion and voicing my opinion I attempt to add the little weight that I can to those that agree with me. You may call it idealism and, partially it is, but fatalism never changed anything for the better.

'Let's all be free' is not a coca-cola commercial, it's the single most important thing in society. Recognizing fundamental rights is what I've been talking all along. Maybe stocken is a better writer in English than I am, maybe your predisposition to read what he writes is different (when compared to mine) but while we've basically been saying the same thing, you agree with him and keep insulting me as if that made you right. Coherence?

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Originally posted by Seitse
Agreed. Palynka is known for not making much sense. And, when
he/she feels cornered, runs to sophismas or goes personal instead
of aiming the fact.
I'm the one going personal? Did you read what you wrote about me? Coherence, Seitse, coherence...

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Originally posted by stocken
Why do we try to look good (whatever our idea about looking good is) at
all? The fact is, that looks matter. Not just because media tells us so,
but because we all react (whether we realise it or not) to the way people
around us look. It's not necessarily due to what we're imprinted by
media. I think the largest influence on what we like and not is t ...[text shortened]... a barbie,
because they have brains and don't want to be treated like dumb
bimbos?
It's one thing to comb your hair, put on some decent clothes and brush your teeth in order to "look good".

It's quite another to have some cut you open with a knife, spread apart your skin and muscle tissue, inject 2 bags of silicone into your body, take a needle and stitch you back up. Your body is then bruised for a few weeks and you take medication to prevent infections. Then, as the years go buy you risk the silicone leaking from the bag leaving you with a whole host of medical illnesses, including sterilization and cancer.

How can you not ask yourself why this person would do this to themself?

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Originally posted by Seitse
Try to understand this, Palinka, please:

Questions are [b]not
evil by themselves. Actually, they are
the core of human knowledge and development.

Repeat the latter sentence 100 times.[/b]
You weren't raising any questions, you were being affirmative about the reasons why people do breast implants. You keep harping on looking things from several angles but you're the one painting behaviours in black and white. Again, coherence is key.

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I'm confused. I support Seitse in parts and Palynka in parts. Man, I need
a drink and some time to think about this, because clearly, there's more
to the subject than I thought.

Now, if you'll all excuse me, I'll just go have a drink. Now, which breasts
to choose? The large, filled ones or the flat, dangling ones? Hmmm.
Tough choice. If I choose the large ones, and they turn out to be plastic,
that'd be a major disappointment (not to mention politically incorrect),
possibly affecting my future opinions on big tits. However, if I choose the
flat ones, with at least some contents, and then, from the corner of my
eyes, I see milk dripping from the large ones I'll be mighty angry at
myself for judging them so easily. Mmmmmm... oh, to hell with it. I'll
just have a glass of vodka instead. 🙁 Thanks a lot people! 😠

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Originally posted by uzless
It's one thing to comb your hair, put on some decent clothes and brush your teeth in order to "look good".

It's quite another to have some cut you open with a knife, spread apart your skin and muscle tissue, inject 2 bags of silicone into your body, take a needle and stitch you back up. Your body is then bruised for a few weeks and you take medication to ...[text shortened]... ation and cancer.

How can you not ask yourself why this person would do this to themself?
Actually, most implants are filled with saline solution today both for health reasons and because they look more "real". There's very little medical risk.

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Originally posted by Palynka
It's as naive as thinking that voting makes a difference. I play my part, I defend what I believe institutions should be (and evidently so do you, as can be seen in this thread) and through discussion and voicing my opinion I attempt to add the little weight that I can to those that agree with me. You may call it idealism and, partially it is, but fatalism n ...[text shortened]... ame thing, you agree with him and keep insulting me as if that made you right. Coherence?
Yes it is a coca-cola commercial, specially when you flag that to
avoid doing a cosntructive criticism.

When your beliefs in freedom (the same I have) are NOT sided by
a critical analysis, then it is just repeating what the slogans tell you.

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Originally posted by stocken
I'm confused. I support Seitse in parts and Palynka in parts. Man, I need
a drink and some time to think about this, because clearly, there's more
to the subject than I thought.

Now, if you'll all excuse me, I'll just go have a drink. Now, which breasts
to choose? The large, filled ones or the flat, dangling ones? Hmmm.
Tough choice. If I choose t ...[text shortened]... h, to hell with it. I'll
just have a glass of vodka instead. 🙁 Thanks a lot people! 😠
Hahahaha, tears of laughter leaking out of my eyes.

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Originally posted by Palynka
You weren't raising any questions, you were being affirmative about the reasons why people do breast implants. You keep harping on looking things from several angles but you're the one painting behaviours in black and white. Again, coherence is key.
Black and white. Says so the person that says making those questions
is attacking the personal freedom of women.

Man, seriously, humankind will not advance if people like you keep
saying there are "forbidden questions".

I think uzless already did a pretty good point in this matter.

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Originally posted by stocken
I'm confused. I support Seitse in parts and Palynka in parts. Man, I need
a drink and some time to think about this, because clearly, there's more
to the subject than I thought.

Now, if you'll all excuse me, I'll just go have a drink. Now, which breasts
to choose? The large, filled ones or the flat, dangling ones? Hmmm.
Tough choice. If I choose t ...[text shortened]... h, to hell with it. I'll
just have a glass of vodka instead. 🙁 Thanks a lot people! 😠
You don't choose the breasts. The breasts choose you.

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