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Calling for extermination of Jews depends on context?

Calling for extermination of Jews depends on context?

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@rajk999 said
You are right here. The meaning of intifada does not include genocide by definition but in the usage by Hamas they clearly spell out that their aim is genocide
Be that as it may not all Palestinians support Hamas. Not all pro-Palestinian protesters support Hamas; in fact, most don't. Therefore not all chants of intifada or meant as calls for genocide.

Hence, the presidents' statement that context is needed.

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a bunch of terrorist loving scum posting on this thread

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@vivify said
Be that as it may not all Palestinians support Hamas. Not all pro-Palestinian protesters support Hamas; in fact, most don't. Therefore not all chants of intifada or meant as calls for genocide.

Hence, the presidents' statement that context is needed.
If most Palestinians don't support Hamas then why did a majority of them vote to put Hamas in power?

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@vivify said
Be that as it may not all Palestinians support Hamas. Not all pro-Palestinian protesters support Hamas; in fact, most don't. Therefore not all chants of intifada or meant as calls for genocide.

Hence, the presidents' statement that context is needed.
I know not all. I also know [and supported by surveys], the % is very high, as much as 75% support Hamas and their methods. Also about 95% hope for full control [no Israel govt] one day in the future. Their education system teaches the young that the killing of Jews is a noble goal. The entire society, lifestyle, religion, education is centered around killing Jews and regaining full control of Palestine from the river to the sea.

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@rajk999 said
I know not all. I also know [and supported by surveys], the % is very high, as much as 75% support Hamas and their methods. Also about 95% hope for full control [no Israel govt] one day in the future. Their education system teaches the young that the killing of Jews is a noble goal. The entire society, lifestyle, religion, education is centered around killing Jews and regaining full control of Palestine from the river to the sea.
It's a violent brainwashed morally bankrupt culture that wants to destroy all the Jews, and if they are ever successful, their next target will be anyone else that doesn't follow the prophet Mohammed.
Plus they treat their women like dogs, how can anyone defend such a people?

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@jj-adams said
When Hamas calls for intifada, they do mean extermination, they say so openly, regardless of whatever definition you want to put on it.
Stefanik wasn't referring to Hamas calling for intifada, but for US college students doing so. And they don't certainly mean genocide for the Jews.

So essentially she wants American students punished or even expelled for their political views.

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@no1marauder said
Stefanik wasn't referring to Hamas calling for intifada, but for US college students doing so. And they don't certainly mean genocide for the Jews.

So essentially she wants American students punished or even expelled for their political views.
Calling for violence against Jews is a lot more than just having a political view.

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@jj-adams said
Calling for violence against Jews is a lot more than just having a political view.
Calling for resistance against Israel's oppression and occupation is a political view. Even saying that Israel i.e. the Zionist State shouldn't exist is a political view. Universities should not be in the business of punishing students for expression of political views.

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@no1marauder said
Calling for resistance against Israel's oppression and occupation is a political view. Even saying that Israel i.e. the Zionist State shouldn't exist is a political view. Universities should not be in the business of punishing students for expression of political views.
Mobs get out of control fast and can do anything.
The college students were a mob chasing Jews around and forcing them to hide and barricade themselves in their rooms.

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@jj-adams said
Mobs get out of control fast and can do anything.
The college students were a mob chasing Jews around and forcing them to hide and barricade themselves in their rooms.
There was such an incident and students who engaged in such conduct could and should be punished.

But Stefanik was referring to speech, not conduct.

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@no1marauder said
There was such an incident and students who engaged in such conduct could and should be punished.

But Stefanik was referring to speech, not conduct.
Ok then you answer her question:
Is calling for the genocide of Jews on university property OK, since it's just speech?

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@jj-adams said
Ok then you answer her question:
Is calling for the genocide of Jews on university property OK, since it's just speech?
"OK" meaning what?

Of course, this is a hypothetical having nothing to do with the context of Stefanik's question which in actual terms was "Should students at a protest who say "globalize the intifada" and/or "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" be punished by your university for "harassment"?"

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@jj-adams said
If most Palestinians don't support Hamas then why did a majority of them vote to put Hamas in power?
The same reason most Dems hate Biden even though they elected him. Hamas seemed like the better of two choices at the time.

Back in 2006-2007 the leaders of Hamas campaigned as moderates and made themselves seem like the more rational option to the opposition. But like politicians they were scumbag liars and turned out the exact opposite of they pretended to be.

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@jj-adams said
When Hamas calls for intifada, they do mean extermination, they say so openly, regardless of whatever definition you want to put on it.
Not according to their 2017 Charter:

"Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. "

2017 Charter paragraphs 16 and 17.

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/doctrine-hamas

If you want to take that with a grain of salt so be it but genocide of Jews is not an official position of Hamas.

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@no1marauder said
Not according to their 2017 Charter:

"Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own c ...[text shortened]... o take that with a grain of salt so be it but genocide of Jews is not an official position of Hamas.
hahaha read vivify's post just before yours and it explains why their charter sounds so reasonable.
Hamas's actions speak louder than their words.