Calling for extermination of Jews depends on context?

@no1marauder said
From the libertarians at Reason:

"But the First Amendment does not make exceptions for hateful speech. It does not prohibit terrorism apologia. It does not forbid implicitly genocidal statements. A university that wishes to model its policies after the U.S. Constitution—an admirable course of action—should allow students and faculty members to make odious statem ...[text shortened]... 't count.[/b]"

https://reason.com/2023/12/06/harvard-mit-penn-presidents-speech-israel-palestine/

@jj-adams said
Harvard president ain't about to resign, she was a "diversity" pick and she has a good thing going:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/billionaire-harvard-grad-bill-ackman-suggests-harvard-president-dei-pick

@earl-of-trumps said
That's right, but your speech can certainly be curtailed when you are someone else's property.

DUMP her

@no1marauder said
A university is supposed to be a place where ideas are shared and debated; it's not a commercial establishment like a WalMart.

It's troubling that you don't recognize the difference.

@no1marauder said
Anti-Israel protests and demonstrations don't count.[/b]"

Here’s Why Even Calling For Genocide Is Protected Free Speech

https://odysee.com/@KimIversen:d/here%E2%80%99s-why-even-calling-for-genocide:2

@jj-adams said
Tell that to these Islamic clerics calling for it:
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/10/video-hamas-members-pray-for-slaughter-extermination-and-annihilation-of-jews/

You do know that a lot of "uprisings" can result in wholesale slaughter, right?

@kevcvs57 said
Babble on son but ‘intifada’ is not synonymous with ‘genocide’
Yeah I don’t think any of them being questioned were actual members of Hamas though.
You’re right about the call for intifada resulting in violence though, look what happened when Trump called for an intifada against congress in order to stop the rightful winner of the 2020 election taking office. Even I wouldn’t claim Trump was calling for genocide though, maybe next time.

@jj-adams said
That's not what the argument is about.
The question was is calling for the genocide of Jews against university rules.
A question the over-educated foolish college presidents refused to answer.

@no1marauder said
No it isn't.

Stefanik was playing games equating chanting in support of the "intifada" for example, as being the same as "calling for the genocide of Jews".

@jj-adams said
When did she say that?
She never mentioned anything about intifada.

And it's not in the most publicized video, but Stefanik goes on a long rant insisting use of the word "intifada" is calling for the "genocide of Jews":

ELISE STEFANIK: It's a yes or no question. Let me ask you this. You are the president of Harvard, so I assume you're familiar with the term "intifada," correct?

CLAUDINE GAY: I've heard that term, yes.

ELISE STEFANIK: And you understand that the use of the term intifada in the context of the Israeli-Arab conflict is indeed a call for violent armed resistance against the state of Israel, including violence against civilians and the genocide of Jews. Are you aware of that?

CLAUDINE GAY: That type of hateful speech is personally abhorrent to me.

ELISE STEFANIK: And there have been multiple marches at Harvard with students chanting quote, "there is only one solution, intifada revolution." And quote, "globalize the intifada." Is that correct?

CLAUDINE GAY: I've heard that thoughtless, reckless, and hateful language on our campus, yes.

ELISE STEFANIK: So, based upon your testimony, you understand that this call for intifada is to commit genocide against the Jewish people in Israel and globally, correct?

CLAUDINE GAY: I will say again that type of hateful speech is personally abhorrent to me.

ELISE STEFANIK: Do you believe that type of hateful speech is contrary to Harvard's code of conduct or is it allowed at Harvard?

CLAUDINE GAY: It is at odds with the values of Harvard. But our values also --

ELISE STEFANIK: Can you not say here that it is against the code of conduct at Harvard?

CLAUDINE GAY: We embrace a commitment to free expression, even of views that are objectionable, offensive, hateful. It's when that speech crosses into conduct that violates our policies against bullying, harassment --

ELISE STEFANIK: Does that speech not cross that barrier? Does that speech not call for the genocide of Jews and the elimination of Israel?

CLAUDINE GAY: When --

ELISE STEFANIK: You testify that you understand that it's the definition of intifada. Is that speech according to the code of conduct or not?

CLAUDINE GAY: We embrace a commitment to free expression and give a wide berth to free expression even of views that are objectionable --

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/12/05/rep_elise_stefanik_to_harvard_university_president_no_consequences_for_calling_for_intifada_on_campus.html

I think anyone reading that transcript will have to admit that Stefanik is insisting that the university presidents suppress political speech at demonstrations and that their refusal to commit to do so was reasonable.

Thus, there is no real cause for their removal from their jobs over this molehill.

@no1marauder said
I think anyone reading that transcript will have to admit that Stefanik is insisting that the university presidents suppress political speech at demonstrations and that their refusal to commit to do so was reasonable.

Thus, there is no real cause for their removal from their jobs over this molehill.

@jj-adams said
These are the same institutions that allow the students to shut down speakers that are conservative, so screw them.

The president of a Christian college attributed his university's soaring enrollment to its commitment to free speech, but the school initially blocked conservative commentator Ben Shapiro from speaking on campus just a few years ago.