@metal-brain saidHello, If there were no system to flag anomalies , then we would not now be having this discussion.
There was no system to flag anything. You are making that up.
Intent is not required to flip votes. Krebs never specified intent either, so it makes no difference. Trump told the truth in this case. Krebs made an inaccurate statement just as Trump said. Votes were flipped. Krebs lied and continues to lie.
@moonbus saidFalse assumption. It was simply "noticed".
Hello, If there were no system to flag anomalies , then we would not now be having this discussion.
A county that typically votes red was deep blue. People there "noticed" that couldn't be right and then looked into what went wrong and they found something.
One of the county workers said that even if they did not catch the error it would have been caught by the canvassing process. Sounds like some safeguard so we don't have to worry, right? It isn't. They simply would have noticed too. LOL!
There is no system to flag anomalies. I already went over this with no1 marauder. He made a series of false assumptions and you did the exact same thing.
@ponderable saidWhat court case? For what?
So: Has a court case been brought Forward? Has there been a decision by the court? If not since you have evidently first-Hand Knowledge: bring the case. (Trump will ceratinly reimburse you for the cost and you will be the star of Trumpsim!)
What does it have to do with Creepy Krebs? I cannot read your mind.
Here is an excerpt from the link below that is a tweet from Krebs:
“There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised,” the officials emphasized.
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/525935-top-cybersecurity-official-ousted-by-trump
Votes were changed. This is not in dispute. The only defense being made is that human error caused the votes to flip and the voting machines were not at fault. That whole argument is stupid. If it was not the fault of Dominion machines why was the human error possible in the first place?
It would be nice if the news media would explain in precise detail how the vote flipping happened. There are lots of very good questions being asked. If it was failure to load new software properly how is it not a software issue? Why is new software required to begin with? Isn't that a design flaw right there? Can all voting machines flip votes because new software did not get installed? If not, why is dominion being used at all?
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@metal-brain saidSo you say that Krebs' Thesis:
What court case? For what?
What does it have to do with Creepy Krebs? I cannot read your mind.
election security experts all agree, 'in every case of which we are aware, these claims (of fraud) either have been unsubstantiated or are technically incoherent
is not factual correct. Your Point in Question is Antrim County. We do have an official document on that: https://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/Antrim_Fact_Check_707197_7.pdf
If there was fraud then a court should have been asked to overturn the resutlts after the court would have been statisfied with the proof.
So has a court decided that your Version was correct? If not, why not. If so then you can call People liars, otherwise you are the liar.
So please bring the Facts in a way that will statisfy a court and nobody will Question your Statement.
@metal-brain saidThat whole post is a lie.
False assumption. It was simply "noticed".
A county that typically votes red was deep blue. People there "noticed" that couldn't be right and then looked into what went wrong and they found something.
One of the county workers said that even if they did not catch the error it would have been caught by the canvassing process. Sounds like some safeguard so we don't ...[text shortened]... over this with no1 marauder. He made a series of false assumptions and you did the exact same thing.
“One of the county workers” blah blah lol lol
Your actually not very good at this disinformation thing are you.
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@Metal-Brain
And you admitted they were corrected. So you figure since you are parroting Trump, if there is one case there is a thousand. So keep at it mr. posterboy for Troll. You impress nobody. You are just a small man troll.
BTW, now Trump is down at least 36 to ZERO in his so-called court cases.
His lawyers must have their law degree from Trump University.
For instance, in Mich. they filed fraud lawsuits for Edison county.
There is one minor hitch in that lawsuit:
THERE IS NO EDISON COUNTY IN MIchigan.
@metal-brain saidPeople noticing discrepancies is part of the electoral system. And it obviously did function. That’s why the result is not official until weeks later; this gives states time to verify and certify accuracy.
False assumption. It was simply "noticed".
A county that typically votes red was deep blue. People there "noticed" that couldn't be right and then looked into what went wrong and they found something.
One of the county workers said that even if they did not catch the error it would have been caught by the canvassing process. Sounds like some safeguard so we don't ...[text shortened]... over this with no1 marauder. He made a series of false assumptions and you did the exact same thing.
@ponderable saidI didn't say fraud. Krebs said no votes were changed and that is false.
So you say that Krebs' Thesis:
election security experts all agree, 'in every case of which we are aware, these claims (of fraud) either have been unsubstantiated or are technically incoherent
is not factual correct. Your Point in Question is Antrim County. We do have an official document on that: https://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/Antrim_Fact_Check_707197_7.pdf ...[text shortened]... please bring the Facts in a way that will statisfy a court and nobody will Question your Statement.
@sonhouse saidand you are admitting votes were changed. Since it was corrected later in in fact changed twice.
@Metal-Brain
And you admitted they were corrected. So you figure since you are parroting Trump, if there is one case there is a thousand. So keep at it mr. posterboy for Troll. You impress nobody. You are just a small man troll.
BTW, now Trump is down at least 36 to ZERO in his so-called court cases.
His lawyers must have their law degree from Trump University.
For ...[text shortened]... Edison county.
There is one minor hitch in that lawsuit:
THERE IS NO EDISON COUNTY IN MIchigan.
That proves Krebs lied in that statement.
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@moonbus saidFortunately it was noticed. If it happened in another county it may not have been noticed. That is enough probable cause for a recount in Michigan.
People noticing discrepancies is part of the electoral system. And it obviously did function. That’s why the result is not official until weeks later; this gives states time to verify and certify accuracy.
Votes were flipped. Since votes were changed and Krebs said they were not he lied. He said nothing about certification or any of that so it is irrelevant. There was only one vote and it changed. Since it was later corrected it in fact changed twice.
Krebs made a false statement. Since he was informed of it when he was fired he is now deliberately lying. Digressing into irrelevancies does not change that fact.
Here is an excerpt from the link below that is a tweet from Krebs:
“There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised,” the officials emphasized.
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/525935-top-cybersecurity-official-ousted-by-trump
Nowhere in the statement Krebs made posted above, does it say the word "fraud".
@moonbus saidSo if millions of votes were to flip as long as it was caught and corrected (flipped back and changing a second time) before certification it didn't happen?
People noticing discrepancies is part of the electoral system. And it obviously did function. That’s why the result is not official until weeks later; this gives states time to verify and certify accuracy.
Is that what you are saying?
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@metal-brain saidNo, what I am saying is what Barr and more than one Rep governor and judge have said. Namely, that whatever changes there may have been were a) insignificant in number and did not alter the result in any state, and b) were not due to criminal intent.
So if millions of votes were to flip as long as it was caught and corrected (flipped back and changing a second time) before certification it didn't happen?
Is that what you are saying?
@metal-brain saidYes, you have repeatedly lied about what happened in Antrim.
False assumption. It was simply "noticed".
A county that typically votes red was deep blue. People there "noticed" that couldn't be right and then looked into what went wrong and they found something.
One of the county workers said that even if they did not catch the error it would have been caught by the canvassing process. Sounds like some safeguard so we don't ...[text shortened]... over this with no1 marauder. He made a series of false assumptions and you did the exact same thing.
You apparently have no intention of ever stopping lying about it.
The report by the Michigan Secretary of State directly refutes your claims as you well know.