@ponderable saidI did. The article says votes were flipped. How they were flipped is irrelevant. Whether or not it would get corrected in the canvassing process and why is also irrelevant.
Please, PLEASE read the article you piosted. Please read it twice. Then excerpt the relevant quotes. Then Digest those. Then try to put Forward a menaingful post (Hint: it could begin with "I erred…"😉.
Krebs said votes were not flipped. He lied. Nowhere in the article I posted does it say votes were not flipped as no1 claimed.
@metal-brain saidSo lets define "flipped".
I did. The article says votes were flipped. How they were flipped is irrelevant. Whether or not it would get corrected in the canvassing process and why is also irrelevant.
Krebs said votes were not flipped. He lied. Nowhere in the article I posted does it say votes were not flipped as no1 claimed.
Your Postings have implied that you believed that votes given for Trump have been counted for Biden in the published final results.
Now you come dwon to a minor linguisrtic Point.
So lets put up some Thesis and see where we stand, please state if you accept or not:
1) The results that have been certified for the presidential elections 2020 in Michigan are correct at least to Errors which would not affcet the outcome.
2) Mr. Krebs might have erred in using a not well defined word.
3) Mr. Krebs intentionally misrepresented that the Outcome in Michigan is what has meanwhile been certified by the appropriate responsible persons.
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@ponderable saidI admire your patience but you really are wasting your breath ponderable.
So lets define "flipped".
Your Postings have implied that you believed that votes given for Trump have been counted for Biden in the published final results.
Now you come dwon to a minor linguisrtic Point.
So lets put up some Thesis and see where we stand, please state if you accept or not:
1) The results that have been certified for the presidential elections ...[text shortened]... the Outcome in Michigan is what has meanwhile been certified by the appropriate responsible persons.
He’s knows exactly what he’s doing, he knows that Trump lost by millions, he’s simply attempting to undermine he concept of democracy by insisting that those who accept the outcome should have to prove a negative in order to validate the result.
Posters really should just ignore his nonsense or it will never stop.
@metal-brain saidAgain you insist on proving a negative.
I did. The article says votes were flipped. How they were flipped is irrelevant. Whether or not it would get corrected in the canvassing process and why is also irrelevant.
Krebs said votes were not flipped. He lied. Nowhere in the article I posted does it say votes were not flipped as no1 claimed.
Nowhere in the article does it say votes were flipped; in fact it repeatedly says they were tabulated correctly on the voting machines. The title says a county mistakenly flipped - a different thing altogether as already explained.
@ponderable saidI never said "published final results". They don't have to be certified. Stop moving the goal post to interject things I never claimed.
So lets define "flipped".
Your Postings have implied that you believed that votes given for Trump have been counted for Biden in the published final results.
Now you come dwon to a minor linguisrtic Point.
So lets put up some Thesis and see where we stand, please state if you accept or not:
1) The results that have been certified for the presidential elections ...[text shortened]... the Outcome in Michigan is what has meanwhile been certified by the appropriate responsible persons.
Flipped is not conditional of the final results. You made that up.
@no1marauder said"in fact it repeatedly says they were tabulated correctly on the voting machines."
Again you insist on proving a negative.
Nowhere in the article does it say votes were flipped; in fact it repeatedly says they were tabulated correctly on the voting machines. The title says a county mistakenly flipped - a different thing altogether as already explained.
That makes no difference. Over 6000 votes were flipped from Trump to Biden. It isn't my fault they failed to install software that led to counting wrong. Counting wrong is counting wrong.
Votes were flipped. How it happened is irrelevant. You are wrong and you falsely called me a liar. Retract your false statement calling me a liar.
@Metal-Brain
You can't just puke out votes were flipped, you have to have proof, troll. Funny thing is now Trump is 40 and ZERO in court case wins saying EXACTLY the same thing all the time, ALLEGING voter fraud without providing a SHRED of evidence.
It is a game just to pander to his base, he doesn't tell them he lost, he just keeps doing the same thing over and over and you and millions of other Trump cultists believe every frigging word Trump PUKES.
@Metal-Brain
WE are not debating that. YOU seem to think if you keep on with your lies, you will find a person or two who would buy into it. Of course all those people are ALREADY Trump cultists so no win for you.
@sonhouse saidIf votes were not flipped why did Antrim County resort to counting ballots by hand? If votes were not flipped how did Biden get over 6000 votes more than he should have? If votes were not flipped how do we know Biden got a specific number of votes he should not have?
@Metal-Brain
You can't just puke out votes were flipped, you have to have proof, troll. Funny thing is now Trump is 40 and ZERO in court case wins saying EXACTLY the same thing all the time, ALLEGING voter fraud without providing a SHRED of evidence.
It is a game just to pander to his base, he doesn't tell them he lost, he just keeps doing the same thing over and over and you and millions of other Trump cultists believe every frigging word Trump PUKES.
They were flipped. Common sense.
The problem with you is that your partisan bias is so warped that you have abandoned common sense for a preferable lie. In this case you are lying to yourself as well as others.
You know deep down inside you are fooling yourself. If you honestly believed Biden won fair and square you would not oppose a recount in Michigan. You secretly fear Trump's election fraud allegations are true. That is why you and other Biden supporters are fanatically opposed to any more recounts, even if Trump pays for them and it burdens nobody.
You are condoning election fraud because you think it is a good cause. That is why the CIA says it does election meddling. They probably think stealing the election from Trump is a good cause. You agree with them, right?
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@metal-brain saidYour claims about Antrim County have already been sufficiently refuted to not waste further time on.
If votes were not flipped why did Antrim County resort to counting ballots by hand? If votes were not flipped how did Biden get over 6000 votes more than he should have? If votes were not flipped how do we know Biden got a specific number of votes he should not have?
They were flipped. Common sense.
The problem with you is that your partisan bias is so warped that yo ...[text shortened]... g. They probably think stealing the election from Trump is a good cause. You agree with them, right?
Trump doesn't want a recount in Michigan as he has seen that recounts in Georgia and Wisconsin did not result in his winning those States. His campaign now wants hundreds of thousands or millions of votes in Democratic counties invalidated and Trump declared the winner. https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/30/trump-michigan-election-results/6464277002/
You down with that?
In that lawsuit:
"The lawsuit relies on a series of debunked or discredited theories. That includes allegations that ballot tabulating software crafted by confederates of deceased Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez helped further a massive international conspiracy against Trump, carried out in Michigan and other swing states in order to secure Biden's victory."
You previously started a thread condemning such claims; have you changed your mind?
@no1marauder saidI'm not sure Dave Boucher has his facts right. Why would they base a lawsuit on something they know is not true? I would have to see proof that is really the case. Partisan writers often go off the rails when they write.
Your claims about Antrim County have already been sufficiently refuted to not waste further time on.
Trump doesn't want a recount in Michigan as he has seen that recounts in Georgia and Wisconsin did not result in his winning those States. His campaign now wants hundreds of thousands or millions of votes in Democratic counties invalidated and Trump declared the winner. ...[text shortened]... n's victory."
You previously started a thread condemning such claims; have you changed your mind?
@metal-brain saidHere you nut, read it yourself: https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/cbs46.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/30/530fcc96-2ff5-11eb-b5a1-071d67389a2f/5fbfbe7b4636c.pdf.pdf
I'm not sure Dave Boucher has his facts right. Why would they base a lawsuit on something they know is not true? I would have to see proof that is really the case. Partisan writers often go off the rails when they write.
Check out paragraphs 5 thru 7 in particular.
@no1marauder saidWhy didn't you provide the Krebs quote that got him fired? Did you find out it was inaccurate just as Trump said it was?
Here you nut, read it yourself: https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/cbs46.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/30/530fcc96-2ff5-11eb-b5a1-071d67389a2f/5fbfbe7b4636c.pdf.pdf
Check out paragraphs 5 thru 7 in particular.
@metal-brain saidKrebs didn't lie about anything and he was fired for not lying.
Why didn't you provide the Krebs quote that got him fired? Did you find out it was inaccurate just as Trump said it was?
@no1marauder saidProve it. Show me the quote.
Krebs didn't lie about anything and he was fired for not lying.