@no1marauder saidKrebs said voting system. He was not specific about it.
Trump in his tweet firing Krebs specifically charged that there were ""glitches" in the voting machines which changed votes from Trump to Biden............."
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/11/trump-fires-security-chief-christopher-krebs/
He said nothing about County Clerks being the "voting system" as you now oddly insist.
Do an internet search of voting system. The first thing that came up was electoral system. The first sentence says "An electoral system or voting system" is a set of rules....yata yata
Voting system is not a specific term and Krebs was not specific. The county clerk was part of the voting system. To say votes changed and the voting system had nothing to do with it is absurd.
Trump gave specific examples of voting fraud in his tweet. One of them was dead people voting.
https://nypost.com/2020/11/02/dead-people-caught-voting-in-nyc-elections-records-show/
These dead people voting was deliberate fraud that changed votes by adding illegitimate votes.
Trump was right. Krebs' quote was highly inaccurate. You falsely claimed I was lying. That makes you the liar.
@Metal-Brain
Again you spout BULLSHTYE.
You act like if your god king says something it MUST be true. Tell that to the courts, now up to 51 lawsuits lost by Trump and the latest POS so-called lawsuits of the 17 states trying to reverse the votes of the four battleground states, something specifically forbidden by the constitution but who cares about that ugly useless piece of paper?
I want to point out the danger of censorship of lies.
If the lie was always apparent I might condone censorship, but that is rarely the case with political issues which are plagued with partisan bias. Because I called Krebs a liar in the title of my thread several posters falsely claimed I was lying. I was telling the truth.
Debaters are the fact checkers. That is what we are here for. All the moderator had to do is wait for the truth to be revealed. Instead, the moderator was urged by no1 marauder and kevcvs57 to censor my posts because I responded to their false allegations that I was a liar by justifiably calling them liars.
Debates are the best fact checking system, not moderators with political bias in favor of Biden.
@metal-brain saidA debater who is selective with the truth cannot be trusted as a fact checker. Fact checkers seek out conflicting sources and attempt to determine objective truth.
I want to point out the danger of censorship of lies.
If the lie was always apparent I might condone censorship, but that is rarely the case with political issues which are plagued with partisan bias. Because I called Krebs a liar in the title of my thread several posters falsely claimed I was lying. I was telling the truth.
Debaters are the fact checkers. That is ...[text shortened]...
Debates are the best fact checking system, not moderators with political bias in favor of Biden.
We're now in a world where everybody lies and terms such as "fake news" and "alternative facts" have completely obliterated rational discussion. We read only those sources which support our views, and therefore we do not receive information in an objective way.
@metal-brain saidNo you were definitely lying and you still are, but given that your soul purpose on these forums is to propagate lies and misinformation you really shouldn’t feign indignation every time the accusation is levelled against you, it looks silly.
I want to point out the danger of censorship of lies.
If the lie was always apparent I might condone censorship, but that is rarely the case with political issues which are plagued with partisan bias. Because I called Krebs a liar in the title of my thread several posters falsely claimed I was lying. I was telling the truth.
Debaters are the fact checkers. That is ...[text shortened]...
Debates are the best fact checking system, not moderators with political bias in favor of Biden.
@metal-brain saidNo you were lying then and your lying now. I for one have only ever used the ‘spam’ option when alerting your posts because your spamming this forum with a constant barrage of threads concerning an event that clearly didn’t happen, namely the theft of the US 2020 election.
I want to point out the danger of censorship of lies.
If the lie was always apparent I might condone censorship, but that is rarely the case with political issues which are plagued with partisan bias. Because I called Krebs a liar in the title of my thread several posters falsely claimed I was lying. I was telling the truth.
Debaters are the fact checkers. That is ...[text shortened]...
Debates are the best fact checking system, not moderators with political bias in favor of Biden.
To claim that the Biden campaign committed a large enough electoral fraud to account for their overwhelming thrashing of Trump is clearly a lie that stretches credulity to breaking point.
Trump lost because although he inspires adoration from a sizeable chunk of voters who feel abandoned and disenfranchised by the centrist politicians in both parties, he also inspires fear and contempt in a bugger chunk of the voters, from both parties. That’s why Trump can lose a state that elects a Republican senator and representative.
@kevcvs57 saidDo you ever debate? All you do is lie because you are incapable of proving me wrong. At least no1 tried.
No you were definitely lying and you still are, but given that your soul purpose on these forums is to propagate lies and misinformation you really shouldn’t feign indignation every time the accusation is levelled against you, it looks silly.
There was also no election interference from Russia in 2016, right? You don't think Trump stole the election from HRC, right? That would be a silly conspiracy theory. Our elections are too secure for that to have happened, right?
@kewpie saidThat is true. That is why a single debater is not the last word on fact checking. It is the direction of the debate itself that results in better fact checking, not any one individual.
A debater who is selective with the truth cannot be trusted as a fact checker. Fact checkers seek out conflicting sources and attempt to determine objective truth.
We're now in a world where everybody lies and terms such as "fake news" and "alternative facts" have completely obliterated rational discussion. We read only those sources which support our views, and therefore we do not receive information in an objective way.
Nobody has successfully proved Krebs' tweet that got him fired was accurate. no1 was the only poster with the courage to try and even he seems to have given up. He went through 3 different reasons before he realized he was grasping at straws. His inconsistency says a lot. He was making it up as he went along.
@metal-brain saidNot everyone wants to keep pulling on the sock in the puppy's mouth for an indefinite period of time even though the puppy doesn't have anything better to do.
That is true. That is why a single debater is not the last word on fact checking. It is the direction of the debate itself that results in better fact checking, not any one individual.
Nobody has successfully proved Krebs' tweet that got him fired was accurate. no1 was the only poster with the courage to try and even he seems to have given up. He went through 3 differe ...[text shortened]... lized he was grasping at straws. His inconsistency says a lot. He was making it up as he went along.
@no1marauder saidI thought Biden picked up votes in some county in Wisconsin after a recount. Did I dream it?
Not everyone wants to keep pulling on the sock in the puppy's mouth for an indefinite period of time even though the puppy doesn't have anything better to do.
Votes changed.
It doesn't matter who they changed to.
@metal-brain saidYou prove yourself wrong every time you post. There is nothing left to debate regarding Moscow’s failure to get Trump a second term. You guys need to move on and, oh I don’t know, practise your hacking skills to the point where you don’t leave big muddy boot prints all over the windowsill.
Do you ever debate? All you do is lie because you are incapable of proving me wrong. At least no1 tried.
There was also no election interference from Russia in 2016, right? You don't think Trump stole the election from HRC, right? That would be a silly conspiracy theory. Our elections are too secure for that to have happened, right?
@kevcvs57 saidBiden gained 132 votes Milwaukee County.
You prove yourself wrong every time you post. There is nothing left to debate regarding Moscow’s failure to get Trump a second term. You guys need to move on and, oh I don’t know, practise your hacking skills to the point where you don’t leave big muddy boot prints all over the windowsill.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/11/27/president-elect-biden-gains-votes-in-wisconsin-county-recount/
Votes were changed. Krebs is a liar.
@metal-brain said😂😂😂😂 are you saying that a Republican trump supporter rigged the election by 132 votes because if not then there was no election fraud and Krebs was telling the truth whilst to everyone’s non surprise you and yours were lying again.
Biden gained 132 votes Milwaukee County.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/11/27/president-elect-biden-gains-votes-in-wisconsin-county-recount/
Votes were changed. Krebs is a liar.
@kevcvs57 saidIt does not matter who the votes changed to. Krebs' statement was inaccurate, that makes him a liar.
😂😂😂😂 are you saying that a Republican trump supporter rigged the election by 132 votes because if not then there was no election fraud and Krebs was telling the truth whilst to everyone’s non surprise you and yours were lying again.
Lying is lying. It does not matter who the voter fraud benefitted. Votes changed.
@Metal-Brain
There is OVERWHELMING evidence of Russian interference with 2016 AND 2020 you lying POS.
One of these days the Trump hypnosis will wear off and you will turn into a real person, till then you are just another Trumpite.