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@suzianne said


What needs to stop is business' influence over government.
Start with Hannity's influence over Trump.


@moonbus
Don't forget Rush Limberger, who got a Presidential medal from Trump. Yep, Rush was SO deserving of that......


@eladar said
Look at how it was applied the first 50 years.
Did you get stuck in the 18th century? In case you hadn't heard, the Salem witch trials are over.


@moonbus said
Did you get stuck in the 18th century? In case you hadn't heard, the Salem witch trials are over.
We are talking about the actual meaning of the Constitution as opposed to the redefinition of terms.


@eladar said
We are talking about the actual meaning of the Constitution as opposed to the redefinition of terms.
“Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the ark of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment...But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times.”
― Thomas Jefferson

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/1673.Thomas_Jefferson?page=3


@moonbus said
“Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the ark of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment...But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more d ...[text shortened]... times.”
― Thomas Jefferson

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/1673.Thomas_Jefferson?page=3
That is why the Constitution can be amended. The Constitution was written to protect the people from the government.

Too bad people with your point of view want the people back on the manor and have gotten much of their desire.


@eladar said
That is why the Constitution can be amended. The Constitution was written to protect the people from the government.

Too bad people with your point of view want the people back on the manor and have gotten much of their desire.
It's Trump the people need protection from. He's power mad and is actively undermining and corrupting the processes and institutions of democracy.


@moonbus said
It's Trump the people need protection from. He's power mad and is actively undermining and corrupting the processes and institutions of democracy.
OK Mr. not American and Christian hater. Tell me who I need protection from...


@eladar said
OK Mr. not American and Christian hater. Tell me who I need protection from...
You need protection from people trying to corrupt and damage the electoral process. People like the ones who tried to stop one of Joe Biden's charter buses from reaching its rally destination in Texas, people who disparage and disrupt mail-in voting, people who set up robot-calling to tell people to "stay home and stay safe" (i.e., to scare people into not voting), and a president who encourages vigilante activists like the Proud Boys ("stand by" -- for further instructions from your commander in chief). That's who.


@Eladar

You need protection from the man who says the counting of votes should stop before they have all been tallied.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/04/media/tv-networks-trump-speech-election-night/index.html


I think the big question out there this morning, no matter who wins, is ....

WTF is wrong with America ?????


@mghrn55


You mean what is right. Dems are so liberal that anyone with traditional values will find it difficult to vote for them.

Soon enough the liberal education system and non enforcement of immigration rules will lead to the America you would like to see, the non America, America.

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@eladar said
@mghrn55


You mean what is right. Dems are so liberal that anyone with traditional values will find it difficult to vote for them.

Soon enough the liberal education system and non enforcement of immigration rules will lead to the America you would like to see, the non America, America.
Joe Biden is one of the most moderate Democrats in America.

That you and Trump think he's a "socialist" shows how rabidly right-wing you both are.

And oh, didn't you mean to say "non-white America"?


@eladar said
@mghrn55


You mean what is right. Dems are so liberal that anyone with traditional values will find it difficult to vote for them.

Soon enough the liberal education system and non enforcement of immigration rules will lead to the America you would like to see, the non America, America.
Ah yes, America for the true Americans. Like the Apache, Pueblo, Crow, Arapaho, Shawnee, Cahuilla, Blackfeet, Catawba, Cherokee, Cheyenne, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Comanche, Coquille, Delaware, Hopi, Karuk, Menominee, Seminole, Sioux, ...

None o' them johnny-come-latelies.


@moonbus said
Ah yes, America for the true Americans. Like the Apache, Pueblo, Crow, Arapaho, Shawnee, Cahuilla, Blackfeet, Catawba, Cherokee, Cheyenne, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Comanche, Coquille, Delaware, Hopi, Karuk, Menominee, Seminole, Sioux, ...

None o' them johnny-come-latelies.
True Americans as in those who embrace individual freedom and self reliance.

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