The post that was quoted here has been removedI am with Divegeester on this one. That is if you can believe the WHO.They claim that 10% of the world population has or has had this virus. That is 780,000,000 people. remember that most do not even know they had it. as of today less that 1,200,000 deaths that is 0.15%. But it does not stop there, that is 0.15% that have died "with" the virus, not "of". I saw studies some time ago that claimed that only 6-7% of those died "of" assuming, for simplicity sake, as high as 10% died "of", that gives a "real" fatality rate of only 0.015%. that gives it a survival rate of 99.85%. but then I do not always agree with the WHO. and Divegeester was being cautious. it is not as bad as he stated.
Even going of your data and 2.67% dying "with" the virus, only 0.267% have died "from" it.
The post that was quoted here has been removedideological?? I said I do not always agree with the WHO. So what part of my post was ideological??
Yes, deaths may be under-reported but I doubt by as much as they are over identified. "with" not "from".
And scarcity of testing??? not in most western countries.
All I am saying is the 1% Divegeester mentioned is a lot more likely than 2.67%
@sh76 saidIT IS NOT ABOUT DEATH RATES!
It's a moot point since in actual history, we did not adopt that strategy (Sweden kinda did, but that's another story).
The big problem now is that governments are still assuming that COVID has as much destructive potential as it did in March. That is unscientific and belied by the reality that the infection fatality rates have plummeted all over.
Whether locking down in M ...[text shortened]... e, I'll reconsider. Until then, high-cost anti-COVID measures are counterproductive and unnecessary.
How many bloody times do I have to repeat this?
The destructive capability of Covid-19 is as I’ve already posted: left unchecked it will bugger the complete structure of society and thus the complete economy and lead to panic.
Look how hard it is for you to take this in.
Hence that governments are using (in my opinion unwisely) the simplified message.
@no1marauder saidlife is deadly, last I heard it has a 100% death rate. And many of those deaths are babies and infants, go figure.
Over a million people have died from this disease already this year.
Your claim it isn't "deadly" is ridiculous.
-Removed-Yes, we have.
And you continue to be dishonest about it by calling the facts I pointed out a "conspiracy theory". As I've already said, a "conspiracy" is a secret plan to do something unlawful and harmful. It's no secret that the UK changed its criteria by only counting COVID deaths that occur within 28 days of a positive test; it's right on their official websites.
That there is no scientific or medical justification to do so is clear so therefore why was it done? So people like you can make disingenuous arguments about the paucity of COVID deaths (though they are sharply escalating even with this statistical funny business) when encouraging public policy which will certainly lead to more sickness and deaths in the misguided belief that it will help the economy.
There was a large study conducted in July which suggested that around 9% of the US population has had COVID-19 at some point. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32009-2/fulltext
At that point around 150,000 deaths had been attributed to COVID19 in the US.
That gives a ballpark figure of an IFR of about .5% though excess death figures strongly suggest the US undercounts its COVID deaths.
Even accepting such a number, it suggests that to reach the 60-70% level thought a minimum to achieve "herd immunity" ("herd mentality" to King Donald), the US would have to accept at least a million COVID deaths.
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-Removed-It makes perfect sense. If you mismanaged the economy and caused a huge mess would you want to take the blame for it? This is scapegoating 101.
Remember how the big banks who caused the crisis were bailed out? What does that tell you? This world is controlled by a banking cartel. The bubble was about to pop and those that are to blame for it would rather you think it is because of SARS2 instead of them.
SARS2 was probably an accidental escape, not a deliberate release. It may have came from Fort Detrick, covered up and blamed on China. That would explain why there are so many cases here in the USA. Testing probably just slowly revealed what has been here since Sept. 2019
5G is for a digital cashless transfer with cell phones. Finland already does that. They use their phones to pay for almost everything. Vaccines contain aluminum so it is easy to sneak other micro tech stuff in vaccines. Since everyone has a smart phone that will be used to control the nano tech devices in your body. They can then be used to control your body. This technology exists. It is not sci-fi anymore. We are in a new age.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5120441/Mind-control-AI-chips-alter-persons-moods.html
https://censoredbyjack.com/watch?id=5f4d56c5838dfb0597dd8187