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Originally posted by mc2005
posts like this are just unnecessary. you know nothing about the girl, you don't even know her name, you don't know how mature/immature she is, you don't know how well we get along, you know absolutely nothing about her or me.
Unecessary yes, but, so is statutory rape bro. Make no mistake, you can be prosecuted even in the UK. As I said God help you if you knock her up, kiss your life goodbye. I've seen it happen too many times.

You asked for guidance and while my response is an attempt at humor, sometimes the greatest truth is spoken in jest. Theres truth and experience in what I say, toss it away lighty if you want, it doesn't matter to me. Believe it or not your generation is no more mature, no smarter and certainly no more twisted than mine was and is.

Look, if you really care for her, build a relationship with her, don't rush anything sexual is mainly what I'm trying to get at. You'll ruin it in my opinion. Just chill out and have fun.

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Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
Unecessary yes, but, so is statutory rape bro. Make no mistake, you can be prosecuted even in the UK. As I said God help you if you knock her up, kiss your life goodbye. I've seen it happen too many times.

You asked for guidance and while my response is an attempt at humor, sometimes the greatest truth is spoken in jest. Theres truth and exper ...[text shortened]... mainly what I'm trying to get at. You'll ruin it in my opinion. Just chill out and have fun.
i have no intention of rushing into sex or anythin, i'm the sort of person who could be quite happy with just the normal stuff.

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The 1/2 + 7 rules seems like a decent one. It's never seemed too off in my experience.

Also, breaking the law isn't a good idea.

If it's nonsexual then there's a lot more leeway in how young you can go I think.

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Originally posted by mc2005
whats peoples opinions here on the age difference between 2 ppl going out? This is an example but i'm only 17 myself, and my best friend is going out with a 15 yr old. I'm sure you know what a group of lads is like, and when we get together we just bully each other (in a playful way) and we used to call him a pedo and stuff cuz thats just what we were all l ...[text shortened]... girl 3 yrs younger than me likes me, n i like her too. I just don't know about goin out tho...
17 and 14? Sounds fine to me.

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Originally posted by trawets113
But the law say's other wise if you sleep with them.
I can always make her have a abortion.

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Originally posted by trawets113
No because at the age of 18 people are sexually mature and classed as adults and so seen as able to make their own decisions.
18 is just a line in the sand. Anybody who sexually matures at 18 is way behind the puberty curve.

You may object that I am speaking of physical maturity, and you are also thinking of emotional maturity, but I don't see any reason to assume that a person emotionally blossoms on their 18th birthday. In general, the emotional maturiry 18 year-olds and 17 year-olds is indistinguishable.

Here would be my rules I think, if I were deciding. These are subject to change with more thought.

14 to 17 year-olds can have sex with each other all they wish. Once you turn 16, you reach the age of consent and can have sex with whomever you choose.

Now that I look back over it, even this has problems. Should a 17/14 couple stop engaging in sexual intercourse simply because one of them turns 18?

Hmm. . . tough question.



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Originally posted by Brother Edwin
I can always make her have a abortion.
Ever considered a lobotomy? I think it would do you good.

www.lobotomy.info

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Originally posted by mc2005
whats peoples opinions here on the age difference between 2 ppl going out? This is an example but i'm only 17 myself, and my best friend is going out with a 15 yr old. I'm sure you know what a group of lads is like, and when we get together we just bully each other (in a playful way) and we used to call him a pedo and stuff cuz thats just what we were all l ...[text shortened]... girl 3 yrs younger than me likes me, n i like her too. I just don't know about goin out tho...
For what it's worth, here's a real life horror story that is in the process of unfolding in our small town of Morenci, Michigan. The boy is 17 and will graduate from high school first week in June. He's a first rate student already set with several academic college scholarships. Just an all-around good kid with good parents. He dated a 14-year-old girl for several months last fall and into the beginning of this year. She's also a bright, good kid with good parents. They evidently had sex. He broke up with her. She told her parents and they told the law and he was charged with statutory rape. He pleaded guilty and a judge in the county seat sentenced him to be listed publically as a Michigan sex offender for the next 20 years. No fine, no jail time, but 20 years listed as a sex offender with all the social and legal baggage that goes with it. Both parties agreed that the sex was consensual but that doesn't matter with statutory rape. Nor did it matter that the girl was technically as guilty of statutory rape as the boy. His scholarshps are on hold. His future is on hold. The girl and her parents would like to withdraw the charges but it's now out of their hands. The boy has major support in the county and the case is being appealed but for the time being his future is ruined. It's certainly an unfortunate case but it does show you what can happen even if the parties involved try to withdraw the complaint. 50 years ago a judge would have sit all parties down, gave them hell and then sent them home with a warning not to bother him again. But it's a different world... just be careful.

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I'm aware of the trouble i could get in if i had sex with her etc. but as said earlier, i would be happy to go out with her and do all the normal stuff without sex

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Originally posted by mc2005
I'm aware of the trouble i could get in if i had sex with her etc. but as said earlier, i would be happy to go out with her and do all the normal stuff without sex
I understand that and have no problem with it, but suppose you have a fight and she goes home angry at you and lies to her parents and they believe her? What then? Even if you can prove innocence it will be a very bad experience. Of course if a guy thought like that he'd never date anyone under 18.

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it takes a certain kind of girl to do that, i'd trust her with my life we're really close. she'd never do that. I think i probably am gona go out with her and just see what happens. of course theres risks but theres always risks.

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Originally posted by mc2005
it takes a certain kind of girl to do that, i'd trust her with my life we're really close. she'd never do that. I think i probably am gona go out with her and just see what happens. of course theres risks but theres always risks.
Sounds good to me. No doubt she's a fine girl. Be nice to her, respect her and have fun. It may turn out to be the best decision of your life. To tell you the truth, when I was your age I didn't give a damn about anything and I pretty much stayed that way until I was 30 and got married. At 17 I'd have dated her in the blink of an eye, whether I trusted her or not. In fact, trust would never even have entered the equation. You sound to me like you have much better judgement than I had at 17.

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i suppose this is an extreme example but i'll go ahead anyway;
my mother met a 15 year old boy when she was 32...you can imagine the problems this caused with her job..his school ( she was a member of staff at the the school he attended) and of course my dad wasn't very happy about it either (understatement of the year)..as a result my sister and i were raised mostly by my dad. However they are still together (she is 56 now), they are married and have 2 children. As much as everyone thought it wouldn't last it did which proves relationships with large age gaps can work out

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Originally posted by wucky3
i suppose this is an extreme example but i'll go ahead anyway;
my mother met a 15 year old boy when she was 32...you can imagine the problems this caused with her job..his school ( she was a member of staff at the the school he attended) and of course my dad wasn't very happy about it either (understatement of the year)..as a result my sister and i were ra ...[text shortened]... e thought it wouldn't last it did which proves relationships with large age gaps can work out
This is sort of off the thread subject but did your father manage to raise you and your sister in such a way that you maintained at least a workable relationship with your mother? And how close is her husband to your age?

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Originally posted by Delmer
This is sort of off the thread subject but did your father manage to raise you and your sister in such a way that you maintained at least a workable relationship with your mother? And how close is her husband to your age?
not really it really screwed everyone up at the time...and i think it was about 7-8 years before i saw her again. Her husband is very close to my age...it's all very odd