Death of a(nother) hypocrite

Originally posted by sh76
I understand that he's just an actor, but that's not the point. You might not take actors' public crusades seriously. I might not take actors' public crusades seriously. But there are many people that do.

In any case, this is just a discussion forum. I don't think we're obligated to limit our discussion to things that we can or should actually change.

You're free to do so, by all means.

Take my comment as a compliment rather than a prohibition, dude.

Originally posted by Seitse
You're free to do so, by all means.

Take my comment as a compliment rather than a prohibition, dude.

I shall do so.

Thank you. 🙂

Originally posted by sh76
I understand that he's just an actor, but that's not the point. You might not take actors' public crusades seriously. I might not take actors' public crusades seriously. But there are many people that do.

In any case, this is just a discussion forum. I don't think we're obligated to limit our discussion to things that we can or should actually change.

So the real issue at hand is: why do people take actors seriously when it comes to politics? It sure would have prevented a horrible eight year presidency if people didn't care about the opinion of actors.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
So the real issue at hand is: why do people take actors seriously when it comes to politics? It sure would have prevented a horrible eight year presidency if people didn't care about the opinion of actors.

Never miss a chance to get in a dig at Reagan, do you? 😉

I should also note that the endorsement of virtually every actor probably helped Obama get elected. Although, of course, it's unclear whether he needed those endorsements anyway.

Originally posted by sh76
Never miss a chance to get in a dig at Reagan, do you? 😉

I should also note that the endorsement of virtually every actor probably helped Obama get elected. Although, of course, it's unclear whether he needed those endorsements anyway.

Well, the main factor that got Obama elected was the "endorsement" of W's legacy.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Well, the main factor that got Obama elected was the "endorsement" of W's legacy.

Can't argue with you there

Originally posted by sh76
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What I don't like, and I guess this is broader than just Swayze, is when public figures scold us peons for doing things that they're 10 times as "guilty" of. If you're going to make something your mission in life and tell other people to act in accordance with your mission, at least you ought to follow your own dictates to the extent practical.

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Which you don't substantiate at all, you just state a pissy little opinion in a pissy little way.

Say, why don't you and Kayne West go to an animal shelter and step on kittens together? You'd make a good team.

😠

Originally posted by whodey
I much prefer to focus on the elitists in Washington who preach to us that we need cap and trade. Pelosi and her weekend plane trips from Washington to California and back every week come to mind. Biden and his "compound" of 5 mansions all driving SUV's come to mind etc. And the list goes on and on and on and on...... These people are beyond our help other than the help of us showing them the door!!!!

right! them derty dems😠

and those angelic republicans car pool in a hybrid, shower every other day to preserve water, recycle newspapers into toilet paper to reduce waste, and hug kittens in their spaer time

Originally posted by whodey
How about flying his wife to Chicago for her birthday at the tax payers expense? Sound "OK" with you? How about flyining all the way to Hawaii on vacation at the tax payers expense? Sound "OK" to you? Of course, if you are a conservative, you probably should hot have that much of an issue as an environementalist because one plane trip to Hawaii is equival ...[text shortened]... o preach to others about how they should be living. I say put up or shut the @#@# up!! 😠

yeah cuz GW neeeeeever flew on airforce one for his private vacations🙄

Originally posted by Badwater
Which you don't substantiate at all, you just state a pissy little opinion in a pissy little way.

Say, why don't you and Kayne West go to an animal shelter and step on kittens together? You'd make a good team.

😠

Typical meaningless ad hominem attack.

You're pissy! You step on kittens! Waaaaaaa...

I'm sure you can do better than that if you try...

In the meantime...

😴

Originally posted by sh76
Typical meaningless ad hominem attack.

You're pissy! You step on kittens! Waaaaaaa...

I'm sure you can do better than that if you try...

In the meantime...

😴

What I want to know though, is why choose an actor who just died to make your point? I'm sure your point could have been made with one of the many who are still living. I'm not all teary eyed for someone I didn't know, but to me it's just a matter of respect.

Although I did laugh at the "Ghost sequel" joke so maybe I'm the hypicrit here.

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
What I want to know though, is why choose an actor who just died to make your point? I'm sure your point could have been made with one of the many who are still living. I'm not all teary eyed for someone I didn't know, but to me it's just a matter of respect.

Although I did laugh at the "Ghost sequel" joke so maybe I'm the hypicrit here.

Although I did laugh at the "Ghost sequel" joke so maybe I'm the hypicrit here.

and who didn't? (honestly)

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
What I want to know though, is why choose an actor who just died to make your point? I'm sure your point could have been made with one of the many who are still living. I'm not all teary eyed for someone I didn't know, but to me it's just a matter of respect.

Although I did laugh at the "Ghost sequel" joke so maybe I'm the hypicrit here.

Well, let me see if I can explain the answer to that question:

I did not set out to make the point and then look through various articles about various people to garner examples.

I happened to have been reading about Swayze last night because of his death (you know, you read a headline, so you look up the Wikipedia page, etc.) and based on the things I read about him, the point was brought to the front and center of my mind. I did not set out to pick on Swayze. The idea generated itself because of the articles about his death.

If not for Swayze's death, the issue simply wouldn't have been on my radar last night.

FYI, I also laughed at the Ghost sequel line.

Originally posted by sh76
Actor Patrick Swayze died today at age 57.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090915/ap_on_en_mo/us_obit_swayze

While my condolences go out to his family, blah blah blah... I couldn't help but noticing two statements as I read a bit about him on the net.

From the article cited above:

[i]Off-screen, he was an avid conservationist who was moved by his time ...[text shortened]... ed thousands of times the carbon that most people he so scornfully criticized do.

😞

Sad.

😞

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
What specifically was paid for with tax dollars and what is your source? Link please.

I couldn't find anything from a reputable source addressing anything but their trip to Europe.

Q: Did Michelle Obama and her daughters use taxpayer money to take a European vacation?

A: The first lady, her mother and her children did stay in Europe for ...[text shortened]... nal expenses.

Full Answer:

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/07/michelles-european-vacation/

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/the-costs-of-obamas-weekend-trip

Apparantly it cost about a quarter of a million dollars to fly back and forth to Chicago using Air Force One.