@Suzianne saidtry current events. Shouse is enough
No, they didn't (have power). Stone and Navarro thought they could take advantage of the threatened Senators to pass their slates of electors. That's how they got busted. Pence knew they were fake and refused to accept them, keeping the original real electors. This is why the Jan. 6 crowd were chanting "Hang Mike Pence".
Try this on for size.
https://americanoversig ...[text shortened]... btains-seven-phony-certificates-of-pro-trump-electors/
Come back when you have educated yourself.
@AverageJoe1 saiddue - adjective
Grab a straw or two. So wanting to rid of us of the illegal plague is wanting to end democracy? Can you define democracy?
You see, the concept of criminal aliens' invasions has absolutely nothing to do with our Democracy. It is a criminal enterprise, don't you see. So your comment is invalid on its face. Not connected, you see.
On another note, Garcia (MS13 on ...[text shortened]... this illegal no due process.
You need to go back to something you are an expert at, ,,,Jan 6!!!!
2a: owed or owing as a natural or moral right
Yes, everyone in the US IS owed "due process", per the US Constitution, including people you hate.
@Metal-Brain saidNope.
Get back to me after you can explain how you have the power to be a fake elector. You cannot. Explain the difference between the Hawaii alternate electors and the alternate electors you call fake.
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/hi/hawaii/news/2023/09/08/can-1960-hawaii-election-get-ga--false-electors-off-the-hook-
The alternate electors were never fake. If they were ...[text shortened]... reason they had the power to do what they did and be prosecuted for it later. Malicious prosecution.
@Metal-Brain saidDoctored videos are not 'evidence'.
https://wethepeopleconvention.org/articles/Police-Let-Protestors-Into-Capital
You are in deep denial. The evidence is clear.
Don't you believe your lying eyes?
Oh wait....you are terrified of seeing the evidence so you are avoiding examining the evidence like the plague, aren't you?
They can't be, the chain of provenance was defiled when the videos were given to Mother Tucker Carlson.
@Suzianne said'Natural or moral' are subjective, irrelevant here.
due - adjective
2a: owed or owing as a natural or moral right
Yes, everyone in the US IS owed "due process", per the US Constitution, including people you hate.
Then, tell us why we have any duty to 'give ' them any right to anything, moral of merciless or whatever.
This should be interesting. There is no societal requirement that i know of which says we have to have anything to do with these people......except tell them to get off my lawn. Why are you allowed to tell someone to get off your lawn, but not allowed to tell them to go back>. Just go the hell back.
@AverageJoe1 saidThe US Constitution is not "subjective", nor "irrelevant".
'Natural or moral' are subjective, irrelevant here.
Then, tell us why we have any duty to 'give ' them any right to anything, moral of merciless or whatever.
This should be interesting. There is no societal requirement that i know of which says we have to have anything to do with these people......except tell them to get off my lawn. Why are you allowed to tell someone to get off your lawn, but not allowed to tell them to go back>. Just go the hell back.
You need to start respecting it, and start following it.
You could go live somewhere else if you don't like democracy.
You could try Russia, for starters.
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@Suzianne saidI didn't say that. I said defs of the two words are subjective. Why,, some words have more than one definition...like the word due. And Sue, the word 'moral' does not appear in the consitution. The word Natural does, in the concept of a foreign citizen becomes a US citizen. These people ain't.
The US Constitution is not "subjective", nor "irrelevant".
You need to start respecting it, and start following it.
You could go live somewhere else if you don't like democracy.
You could try Russia, for starters.
Hey, you appear to know what democracy is . Please edify.
And you don't say why I can order someone off my lawn, but cannot order illegal aliens out of my country. I don't know why you libs avoid interesting queries. If you would just entertain a sliver of humor, devoid with libs, it would prompt interesting responses. Someone may even agree with you, certainly maruder.
@AverageJoe1 saidLook everyone, Trump walks back his tariffs, so now Trumpublicans think it's cool to walk back all their comments.
I didn't say that. I said defs of the two words are subjective. Why,, some words have more than one definition...like the word due. And Sue, the word 'moral' does not appear in the consitution. The word Natural does, in the concept of a foreign citizen becomes a US citizen. These people ain't.
Hey, you appear to know what democracy is . Please edify.
And you do ...[text shortened]... th libs, it would prompt interesting responses. Someone may even agree with you, certainly maruder.
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@Suzianne saidNot me. It is called negotiation. It is likely that he has them playing in to his hands. Certainly we can all agree that the 135% tariffs were a simple ploy to get China's attention.
Look everyone, Trump walks back his tariffs, so now Trumpublicans think it's cool to walk back all their comments.
You failed to answer my earlier question. Why can I order people to get off my lawn, but we cannot order illegal aliens to get out of our country?
@sonhouse saidI had overlooked this jewel of a SHouse hypocritical post.
It is a matter of which is the lesser evil. Trump totally destroying our government V being led by a four star general who would have no such designs on our government. Pretty simple equation.
You speak for yourself!!!! ( I made that up). You are saying it is OK to overthrow Trump , because you hate his guts for some undisclosed factual reason**.
But as the dems have reasons that you agree with, like having DOGE start saving us money, like you would ask your wife to not spend too much money, then it IS OK to overthrow Trump for trying to save us money.
Since you have stuck your neck out, give us specific examples of why he should be overthrown. No opinions, please, we have tired of your opinions. What exactly?
I figure you don't like his saying that Harvard is 31% foreign, when we have American kids who would do anything to have those seats. You are for the foreigners having those seats. So, impeach Trump for speaking out for our kids????
@AverageJoe1 saidLet's say someone is walking by your lawn and a bus swerves onto the sidewalk and is about to hit them. The law allows them to go onto your lawn to avoid serious injury or death even though it would normally be trespassing.
Sue can't handle question. Anyone, why is it acceptable societal practice to tell someone to get off your lawn but not to tell an illegal person to get out of your country? My granny came up with this brain teaser.
The same principle applies to those seeking asylum or refugee status in the US.
@no1marauder saidIt mos certainly does not. Any conservative would be aghast you think that is similar circumstance.
Let's say someone is walking by your lawn and a bus swerves onto the sidewalk and is about to hit them. The law allows them to go onto your lawn to avoid serious injury or death even though it would normally be trespassing.
The same principle applies to those seeking asylum or refugee status in the US.
But, interesting that you think that, other than definitely running out to see if the person on your lawn is OK and ask if you can take him to the hospital.......could you do another circumstance where one could be allowed to trespass? I will even give you one, ,,,,,, a guy next door accidentally throws a ball in my yard, of course he can come get it. I will tell my German Shepherd to stand down!!
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@AverageJoe1 saidNot all conservatives are as stupid as you.
It mos certainly does not. Any conservative would be aghast you think that is similar circumstance.
But, interesting that you think that, other than definitely running out to see if the person on your lawn is OK and ask if you can take him to the hospital.......could you do another circumstance where one could be allowed to trespass? I will even give you one, ,,,,, ...[text shortened]... ws a ball in my yard, of course he can come get it. I will tell my German Shepherd to stand down!!
The analogy is apt and consistent with US law.
EDIT: Actually the criteria for asylum is consideraby more lenient than that.https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum