@metal-brain saidWTF are you talking about? I never said anything about the Pentagon.
That is not true. You even said the Pentagon offered in an attempt to deny Trump did. If Pelosi did not refuse them "before" Jan 6 who was it that did refuse them?
@no1marauder saidThe offer was made. Why are you denying that?
WTF are you talking about? I never said anything about the Pentagon.
Here is an excerpt from the link below:
"Pelosi’s repeated assertions that she has “no power over the Capitol Police” are rejected.
“This is false,” says the report. “Documents provided by [current] House Sergeant at Arms show how then-House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving carried out his duties in clear deference to the Speaker, her staff, and other Democratic staff . . .
“House Rules dictate . . . that the Sergeant at Arms is to report directly to the Speaker of the House.”
https://nypost.com/2022/12/21/house-gop-report-faults-nancy-pelosi-for-jan-6-security-failures/
Now.......who is at fault for the delay of NG deployment "during" the riots that day?
@no1marauder saidBefore or during the riots on the 6th?
Which is it?
At first you only wanted to talk about before the riot; now you seem to want to talk about during the riot.
In either case, Trump didn't order the DC Guard to deploy although he had the authority to do so and Nancy Pelosi had no veto over such a deployment so Trump is lying.
It is important that you specify so you do not confound the two. That is how the lying fact checkers mislead people. They use the word "during" instead of "before" in a deliberate effort to obfuscate. It worked on you. The offer was "before" the riots, not "during" the riots.
@metal-brain saidWTF does any of that have to do with the DC Guard?
The offer was made. Why are you denying that?
Here is an excerpt from the link below:
"Pelosi’s repeated assertions that she has “no power over the Capitol Police” are rejected.
“This is false,” says the report. “Documents provided by [current] House Sergeant at Arms show how then-House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving carried out his duties in clear deference to th ...[text shortened]... y-failures/
Now.......who is at fault for the delay of NG deployment "during" the riots that day?
Trump's acting Secretary of Defense at the time confirmed, under oath, Trump didn't order the DC Guard to be deployed:
"Former acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller told the House select committee investigating the Capitol Hill insurrection that former President Donald Trump never gave him a formal order to have 10,000 troops ready to be deployed to the Capitol on January 6, 2021, according to new video of Miller’s deposition released by the committee.
“I was never given any direction or order or knew of any plans of that nature,” Miller said in the video.
Miller later said in the video definitively, “There was no direct, there was no order from the President.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/politics/chris-miller-house-select-committee/index.html
Stop swallowing Trump's ridiculous lies like a gullible fool.
@metal-brain saidIt was neither.
Before or during the riots on the 6th?
It is important that you specify so you do not confound the two. That is how the lying fact checkers mislead people. They use the word "during" instead of "before" in a deliberate effort to obfuscate. It worked on you. The offer was "before" the riots, not "during" the riots.
@no1marauder saidBefore or during the riots?
WTF does any of that have to do with the DC Guard?
Trump's acting Secretary of Defense at the time confirmed, under oath, Trump didn't order the DC Guard to be deployed:
"Former acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller told the House select committee investigating the Capitol Hill insurrection that former President Donald Trump never gave him a formal order to have 10, ...[text shortened]... r-house-select-committee/index.html
Stop swallowing Trump's ridiculous lies like a gullible fool.
@no1marauder saidYou are either lying or very gullible.
It was neither.
The Pentagon offered NG deployment "before" the 6th. Who refused the offer?
@metal-brain saidWhat is your source of information besides Trump saying so?
You are either lying or very gullible.
The Pentagon offered NG deployment "before" the 6th. Who refused the offer?
@metal-brain saidIt never happened as Chris Miller testified under oath. For the record:
You are either lying or very gullible.
The Pentagon offered NG deployment "before" the 6th. Who refused the offer?
"The D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard unit, out of all of the 54 states and territories, which reports only to the President. " https://dc.ng.mil/About-Us/
Not to the Speaker of the House or anybody else except to subordinates of the President.
@no1marauder saidA Washington Post reporter quoting an anonymous source said the Department of Defense initially denied D.C. officials' request to deploy the guard.
WTF are you talking about? I never said anything about the Pentagon.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/national-guard-capitol-riots/
This was "during" the riots. Not before.
@no1marauder saidChief Sund begged repeatedly for troops but has testified that Irving rebuffed him over concern about “optics.” During the violence on Jan. 6, Sund repeated his request, but help was delayed until after the riot ended, because Irving needed to run it up the chain of command, a.k.a. Pelosi.
It never happened as Chris Miller testified under oath. For the record:
"The D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard unit, out of all of the 54 states and territories, which reports only to the President. " https://dc.ng.mil/About-Us/
Not to the Speaker of the House or anybody else except to subordinates of the President.
“The Speaker’s office was heavily involved in planning and decision-making before and during the events of Jan. 6, 2021, and micromanaged the Sergeant at Arms.”
https://nypost.com/2022/12/21/house-gop-report-faults-nancy-pelosi-for-jan-6-security-failures/
@Metal-Brain
You and your boss Putin defends the indefensible, Trump did nothing for 3 hours even though he was BEGGED to do something because he WANTED it to happen the way it did in his zeal to overthrow the peaceful transfer of POTUS to Biden.
If he is elected again, he will try to take over the entire government like NatanYAHOO is trying to do now but the Gaza war put a hold on that for now in his case. Trump's allies will bend over backwards kissing his ass to get him to be a dictator, they have already stated that publicly.
Like Steve Miller, the dude who came up with the plan to cage 5000 kids might be our next attorney general. If you thought Bill Barr was bad, wait till THAT creep gets that job, WHAT constitution? I do what my god king Trump tells me to do.
@sonhouse saidDuring the violence on Jan. 6, Sund repeated his request, but help was delayed until after the riot ended, because Irving needed to run it up the chain of command, a.k.a. Pelosi.
@Metal-Brain
You and your boss Putin defends the indefensible, Trump did nothing for 3 hours even though he was BEGGED to do something because he WANTED it to happen the way it did in his zeal to overthrow the peaceful transfer of POTUS to Biden.
If he is elected again, he will try to take over the entire government like NatanYAHOO is trying to do now but the Gaza war put ...[text shortened]... , wait till THAT creep gets that job, WHAT constitution? I do what my god king Trump tells me to do.
“The Speaker’s office was heavily involved in planning and decision-making before and during the events of Jan. 6, 2021, and micromanaged the Sergeant at Arms.”
https://nypost.com/2022/12/21/house-gop-report-faults-nancy-pelosi-for-jan-6-security-failures/
The Department of Defense initially denied D.C. officials' request to deploy the guard. Are you blaming Trump for the DOD delaying deployment of the NG "during" the riots? Yes or no?
This was Chris Miller's testimony regarding the matter:
"Q So I want to be clear here that -- since then, in February 2021, Mark
7 Meadows said on Fox News that, quote: Even in January, that was a given as many as 8 10,000 National Guard troops were told to be on the ready by the Secretary of Defense.
9 Is there any accuracy to that statement?
10 A I'm not -- not from my perspective. I was never given any direction or
11 order or knew of any plans of that nature. So I was surprised by seeing that publicly, but
12 I don't know the context or even where it was. So, no, there was -- obviously we had
13 plans for activating more folks, but that was not anything more than contingency
14 planning.
15 There was no official message traffic or anything of that nature regarding --
16 Q So, just so we're clear, you did not have 10,000 troops, quote, to be on the
17 ready for January 6th prior to January 6th?
18 A A nonmilitary person probably could have some sort of weird interpretation,
19 but no. The answer to your question is no. That was not part of my plan or the
20 Department of Defense's plan.
21 Q And just the rest of his statement was, quote: That was a direct order from
22 President Trump, and yet here is what we see, all kinds of blame going around, but not a
23 whole lot of accountability. To be crystal clear, there was no direct order from President
24 Trump to put 10,000 troops to be on the ready for January 6th, correct?
25 A No. Yeah. That's correct. There was no direct -- there was no order
from the President".
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-TRANSCRIPT-CTRL0000036556/pdf/GPO-J6-TRANSCRIPT-CTRL0000036556.pdf pp. 100-101
@metal-brain saidWhere does that say anything about the DC Guard?
During the violence on Jan. 6, Sund repeated his request, but help was delayed until after the riot ended, because Irving needed to run it up the chain of command, a.k.a. Pelosi.
“The Speaker’s office was heavily involved in planning and decision-making before and during the events of Jan. 6, 2021, and micromanaged the Sergeant at Arms.”
https://nypost.com/2022/12/2 ...[text shortened]... uard. Are you blaming Trump for the DOD delaying deployment of the NG "during" the riots? Yes or no?