Or did Kristen Welker lie about Trump?
On NBC's Meet the Press today they showed a clip of Trump mistaking Nikki for Pelosi and Trump (thinking he was talking about Pelosi) said he authorized 10,000 national guard troops for the Capitol and Pelosi turned it down. Kristen Welker said that was not even true because Nancy Pelosi was not in charge of security, but a house GOP report did fault Pelosi for it.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/21/house-gop-report-faults-nancy-pelosi-for-jan-6-security-failures/
Who lied? Trump or Kristen Welker?
Notice that the so called fact checkers who claim Trump's statement is not true point out that Pelosi did not refuse the NG "during" the protests at the capitol which is true, but Trump did not authorize the NG "during" the protests at the capitol. He authorized them "before" the protests at the capitol.
Trump did not say "during" the protests at the capitol. He did not specify when, so I have concluded Trump's statement is true and Kristen Welker is spreading (propaganda) misinformation on NBC's Meet the Press.
21 Jan 24
@metal-brain saidTrump as always. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/16/fact-check-no-trump-request-10000-guard-troops-jan-6/8929215002/
Or did Kristen Welker lie about Trump?
On NBC's Meet the Press today they showed a clip of Trump mistaking Nikki for Pelosi and Trump (thinking he was talking about Pelosi) said he authorized 10,000 national guard troops for the Capitol and Pelosi turned it down. Kristen Welker said that was not even true because Nancy Pelosi was not in charge of security, but a house ...[text shortened]... se-gop-report-faults-nancy-pelosi-for-jan-6-security-failures/
Who lied? Trump or Kristen Welker?
He was in charge of the DC Guard, not Nancy Pelosi.
"“President Trump had authority and responsibility to direct deployment of the National Guard in the District of Columbia, but never gave any order to deploy the National Guard on January 6th or on any other day,” the committee wrote in the 845-page report it released Thursday evening. "
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3787032-dc-national-guard-deployment-wasnt-purposefully-delayed-on-jan-6-final-report-finds/
@no1marauder saidTrump delegated that responsibility to the Pentagon. Pelosi got the offer regardless of who was doing the direct offering.
Trump as always. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/16/fact-check-no-trump-request-10000-guard-troops-jan-6/8929215002/
He was in charge of the DC Guard, not Nancy Pelosi.
"“President Trump had authority and responsibility to direct deployment of the National Guard in the District of Columbia, but never gave any order to deploy the National Guard ...[text shortened]... defense/3787032-dc-national-guard-deployment-wasnt-purposefully-delayed-on-jan-6-final-report-finds/
That also means that the Pentagon was in charge of security "during" the protests and refused the NG requests. So if you want to absolve Trump of offering NG troops because he delegated that to the Pentagon then he is not responsible for security "during" the protests as democrats have blamed him for all of this time.
Democrats want it both ways. They want to blame Trump for what the pentagon did when it is convenient, then absolve the Pentagon when they refuse to deploy NG troops when asked so they can blame Trump for it.
@metal-brain saidTrump could have stepped in at any time and ordered the DC Guard to anywhere in the District he pleased and Nancy Pelosi had no veto over it.
Trump delegated that responsibility to the Pentagon. Pelosi got the offer regardless of who was doing the direct offering.
That also means that the Pentagon was in charge of security "during" the protests and refused the NG requests. So if you want to absolve Trump of offering NG troops because he delegated that to the Pentagon then he is not responsible for security " ...[text shortened]... absolve the Pentagon when they refuse to deploy NG troops when asked so they can blame Trump for it.
He's lying and you know it.
@no1marauder saidYou still want it both ways. Trump did not control the NG any more than Pelosi did. He delegated that to the Pentagon/DOD. That is why you just claimed Trump did not offer NG deployment to Pelosi, but the Pentagon did and she refused "before" the 6th.
Trump could have stepped in at any time and ordered the DC Guard to anywhere in the District he pleased and Nancy Pelosi had no veto over it.
He's lying and you know it.
Then on the 6th when they decided they needed the NG after all they requested NG deployment from who? The Pentagon/DOD and they refused the request, didn't they? So get your story straight, is the Pentagon/DOD to blame or is Trump? It is time for you dishonest democrats having it both ways to end.
@metal-brain saidHave you glanced at the US Constitution lately? Who's Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces?
You still want it both ways. Trump did not control the NG any more than Pelosi did. He delegated that to the Pentagon/DOD. That is why you just claimed Trump did not offer NG deployment to Pelosi, but the Pentagon did and she refused "before" the 6th.
Then on the 6th when they decided they needed the NG after all they requested NG deployment from who? The Pentagon/DOD ...[text shortened]... entagon/DOD to blame or is Trump? It is time for you dishonest democrats having it both ways to end.
22 Jan 24
@no1marauder saidStop evading my question. Who refused the requests for NG deployment to the Capitol on the 6th "during" the protests?
Have you glanced at the US Constitution lately? Who's Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces?
22 Jan 24
@no1marauder
Was Pelosi offered 10,000 National Guard troops "before" Jan 6th and refused to accept them?
22 Jan 24
@no1marauder saidSo Kristen Welker lied about Trump this morning. Is that what you are saying?
Have you glanced at the US Constitution lately? Who's Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces?
@metal-brain saidNo.
@no1marauder
Was Pelosi offered 10,000 National Guard troops "before" Jan 6th and refused to accept them?
No one had any authority to "offer" her National Guard troops and she had no authority to make decisions regarding their deployments.
22 Jan 24
@metal-brain saidNo.
So Kristen Welker lied about Trump this morning. Is that what you are saying?
22 Jan 24
@metal-brain saidI already gave you the link; try reading it:
@no1marauder
Was Pelosi offered 10,000 National Guard troops "before" Jan 6th and refused to accept them?
"A government memo about the events leading up to Jan. 6, statements from Pelosi’s office and the Pentagon and testimony from the former House sergeant-at-arms show Trump did not request 10,000 troops ahead of the rally.
Drew Hammill, Pelosi's spokesperson, told USA TODAY that Pelosi’s office was not consulted or contacted regarding any request for the National Guard ahead of Jan. 6, and he noted the speaker of the House does not have the power to reject that type of request. "
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/16/fact-check-no-trump-request-10000-guard-troops-jan-6/8929215002/
22 Jan 24
@no1marauder saidThat is not true. You even said the Pentagon offered in an attempt to deny Trump did. If Pelosi did not refuse them "before" Jan 6 who was it that did refuse them?
No.
No one had any authority to "offer" her National Guard troops and she had no authority to make decisions regarding their deployments.
@metal-brain saidWhich is it?
Then Trump did not refuse NG "during" the Jan 6 riots. Right?
At first you only wanted to talk about before the riot; now you seem to want to talk about during the riot.
In either case, Trump didn't order the DC Guard to deploy although he had the authority to do so and Nancy Pelosi had no veto over such a deployment so Trump is lying.