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Ethnic cleansing without genocide?

Ethnic cleansing without genocide?

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@spruce112358 said
Or making the area unlivable so that inhabitants are forced to leave. That seems to be the Israeli strategy for ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

The ethnic cleansing of the WB will be harder to achieve, but the Israelis want that land, too, so I'm sure they will find a way.
What the Israeli’s do is actually force the inhabitants of villages to leave. Let it lay baren for an X-amount of years, change the village’s name and stick it full of Israelis.

Internationally totally illegal.
What they do is refer to an antiquated law from the Ottoman empire, in which that behaviour was made possible; and obviously was never recognised by anyone but the Ottomans, even at the time.

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@Rajk999 said
My personality is defective because I hate those Islamic murderer and rapists ?
Your sick society has produced.. degenerates like you.
My sick society?

Which society are you referring to?
Come on. Tell us.


@Metal-Brain said
Israel is not herding them up to relocate them. They are systematically killing civilians in an attempt to motivate them to leave on their own. Then they lie by claiming every kitchen has a missile in it to justify killing civilians.

https://grabien.com/file?id=2617598

If people are stupid enough to buy that then Bill Gates has a missile in his kitchen. Bomb him with a drone.
Let’s try again
Ethnic cleansing is the act of forcing a specific ethnicity out of a specific geographical area
Genocide is the killing, or the attempted killing of all the members of a specific ethnic or racial group
The hard right Israeli regime forcing the Palestinians out of northern Gaza is ethnic cleansing but some of the methods they are using such as starvation and mass murder are identical to the methods used to commit genoside

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All war is unnecessary. All conflicts could be avoided without war. I haven't changed my viewpoint, but I'm open to hearing what you think to see if I can change it.
My definition of warring countries is two or more countries killing each other's nationals. Is there another definition?


@yo-its-me said
All conflicts could be avoided without war.
Untrue at the present moment.

Converting 100% of conflict resolution to non-warfare solutions requires a legitimate, democratically elected WORLD government, which we do not presently have.

Sorry. We will likely get there one day, but none of us will live to see it.

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@spruce112358 said
Or making the area unlivable so that inhabitants are forced to leave. That seems to be the Israeli strategy for ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

The ethnic cleansing of the WB will be harder to achieve, but the Israelis want that land, too, so I'm sure they will find a way.
After Oct 7th the aim was the put an end to Hamas. However the Gazans support Hamas and allow them to hide in their homes and bring in military hardware and rocket launchers in their homes, schools and hospitals.

It is a lie that Israel wants land. Israel removed all Jews from Gaza in around 2005, so that they can the free of Jews around them.

The problem with Palestinians is that they are idiots whose aim in life is to kill Jews. So they take the roughly $1,000,000,000 US they get in aid every year, and spend it on military hardware, weapons, tunnels, in order to kill more Jews. With that kind of money any average IQ person can make that piece of land like Dubai with that kind of money.

Palestinians obsession with 'Death to Jews' is their downfall.


@Rajk999 said
It is a lie that Israel wants land.
No, Israel definitely wants more land. They are seizing it daily:

CNN

Israel’s government has approved a large land seizure in the occupied West Bank – the biggest since the 1993 Oslo Accords set out a path for peace between Israel and the Palestinians, according to the Israeli rights group Peace Now.

The Israeli military’s Civil Administration department, which manages civilian matters in the West Bank, issued the declaration on June 25 converting the area into state land, according to a document from the body, but the official notice wasn’t posted until Wednesday, Peace Now said.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/middleeast/israel-largest-west-bank-land-seizure-three-decades-intl/index.html

“It’s time to learn lessons, change direction, … and restore full Israeli control all over the Gaza Strip,” [Smotrich] added.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240414-israeli-minister-calls-for-full-seizure-of-gaza-strip/


@kevcvs57 said
Let’s try again
Ethnic cleansing is the act of forcing a specific ethnicity out of a specific geographical area
Genocide is the killing, or the attempted killing of all the members of a specific ethnic or racial group
The hard right Israeli regime forcing the Palestinians out of northern Gaza is ethnic cleansing but some of the methods they are using such as starvation and mass murder are identical to the methods used to commit genoside
I think you got it about right. Israel has always had a policy of making life difficult for the people in Gaza. Cutting off electricity and water so they would want to leave such difficulties. But the Palestinians know that so they stay.

They are stubborn about it so Israel deliberately kills civilians hoping they will leave out of fear they will die. The ministers admit they want the Palestinians to leave because (they claim) Gazans have lost their right to Gaza. All because of what Hamas did all of Gaza gets stolen and Zionists seem justified for some reason. Lame excuse to steal land.

The USA is condoning this. Biden claims he is halting weapons to Israel, but gives them 30 days to comply so Israel can start a war first with Iran. Israel will strike Iran before the US election in less than 2 weeks. Iran said they will respond immediately. That means war. Stupid people think Iran is bluffing.

Iran has hyper sonic missiles. Some people forget that.


@kevcvs57 said
Let’s try again
Ethnic cleansing is the act of forcing a specific ethnicity out of a specific geographical area
Genocide is the killing, or the attempted killing of all the members of a specific ethnic or racial group
The hard right Israeli regime forcing the Palestinians out of northern Gaza is ethnic cleansing but some of the methods they are using such as starvation and mass murder are identical to the methods used to commit genoside
All? Do you mean until they finish killing them all it is not considered genocide? Nice to know the Rwanda genocide did not take place until they were all dead.
The ethnic cleansing plan is admitted. How do you think they intend to carry it out? Where are the Gazans going to go if they have to leave? Egypt will not take them. Lebanon is being invaded. Where are they to go?

https://news.antiwar.com/2024/10/22/netanyahu-declines-blinken-request-to-publicly-reject-gaza-ethnic-cleansing-plan/#gsc.tab=0

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@spruce112358 said
Untrue at the present moment.

Converting 100% of conflict resolution to non-warfare solutions requires a legitimate, democratically elected WORLD government, which we do not presently have.

Sorry. We will likely get there one day, but none of us will live to see it.
But, we can all agree that war is unnecessary, right?

It's better to live in hope and believe things can get better, to see how things could be. imo.

In all seriousness, if women were in power there'd be less ego floating about the place needing revenge and to 'win'.

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And I refer you back to my answer.
The UK was defending Poland, which at the time could not defend itself. This was a promise made before that needed to be upheld.
Another solution could have been found.
But essentially a whole load of things should have been different before Hitler gained popularity. And if forgiveness had been at the heart of decisions and agreements, then things would have been different, Hitler wouldn't have had the conditions he had in front of him.

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