@beardmusic saidUtter nonsense. The US / Iraq conflict had nothing to do with Christianity.
@Rajk999
Unless you apply the same 'logic' to all other religions then yes it is irrelevant. Was the Iraq invasion of 2003 led by the 'Christian' Bush indicative of all Christians? If not why not? Your point is weak and merely reinforces your own prejudices/ assumption by erroneously extrapolating from individual/ particular cases to the general/ universal. I understand the appeal of this but it is feeble reasoning.
Lame attempt to justify Islamic extremism.
Give it another try, and while you are at it please address some of the killings of Christians all over the world by Muslims. I notice you are ignoring that.
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That's the point it isn't irrelevant it just doesn't fit with your blinkered view of the world and your 'logic.' Anyway there's no point carrying on as you've already got all the answers and seem totally ignorant of the most basic philosophical concepts of reasoning! Good luck with that!!!
@beardmusic saidIn several parts of the world Muslims are beheading, raping and murdering Christians, all with the expressed approval of the Quran. I have posted the details already many times. All Muslims have the potential to be murderous. There are no moderates... NONE. I have never once heard or read of any Muslim condemning these attacks and killings. They are silent and like you they make these lame stupid excuses.
@Rajk999
That's the point it isn't irrelevant it just doesn't fit with your blinkered view of the world and your 'logic.' Anyway there's no point carrying on as you've already got all the answers - good luck with that!!!
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All people have the potential to be murderous!?!?!?!!? There are no moderates??? You are talking about 2 billion people you have never met and have no idea about at all (apart from your projections). Clearly this is too complex a situation for you - hence your simplistic points.
As I've said, your arguments are weak and show a total lack of the ability to reason - presumably because you are blinded by prejudice and simplistic thinking, although there may be other reasons?
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@beardmusic saidIslamic atrocities are going on all over the world. Post one, ONE Muslim condemning these atrocities. There are none. They all speak like you... first they claim 2 billion Muslims are not extremists, then they resort to fabricating nonsense about Christians doing the same thing.
@Rajk999
All people have the potential to be murderous!?!?!?!!? As I've said, your arguments are weak and show a total lack of the ability to reason - presumably because you are blinded by prejudice and simplistic thinking, although there may be other reasons?
Is it prejudice to condemn a religion that promotes death to unbelievers and infidels, abuse of women and children, pedophila, rape of women and girls. Is that prejudice? Are you mad?
@beardmusic saidThoughtful ?? Its thoughtful to support, defend and make excuses for an evil cult religion that preaches death, rape and pedophilia? You are a sick man. Here are some references from the Quran;
@Rajk999
No, just more thoughtful than you ..
(A) Quran 2:191 “Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.”
(B) Quran 3:28 “Muslims must not take infidels as friends”
(C) Quran 3:85 “Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable”
(D) Quran 5:33 “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam”
(E) Quran 8:12 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than Quran”
(F) Quran 8:60 “Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels”
(G) Quran 8:65 “The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them”
(H) Quran 9:5 “Whenever opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them”
(I) Quran 9:123 “Make war on infidels living in your neighborhood”
(J) Quran 47:4 “Do not hanker for peace with infidels; behead them when you catch them.
Again not a word of concern for the millions all over the world who are raped, killed, displaced, starved and chased out of their homes. All you are doing is justifiying this sick, evil religion.
Please continue to reply I have some more stuff to post.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidThat depends, Ghost...on if the thread is a religious topic, or, a political one. I think that it is political. Being a christian, I would not be offended if it were churches instead of mosques, as long as China is accomplishing something against a mutual enemy. A church is a meeting place, GHod is not in there, I'm cool witih it.
Mosques, churches,....all the same. (Although you'd be lamenting of course if it was the latter).
It is political..
@Rajk999 saidHow about stink tolerance. Marauder says I should not discriminate on culture. Well, if they all took a bath like we do, we might let them join our private clubs. Welll,,,,,,,i said might.
Glad you asked. Blind religious tolerance is for fools. In the UK for example, the British preach religious tolerance, and that people must accept Islam, because like you, they believe all religions are the same and should be tolerated. In the meantime Muslims are teaching their kids to kill infidels and unbelievers, like you.
The Chinese are wise and Europe is going to ...[text shortened]... like so many other places where Christians are being beheaded.
So cut the religious tolerance BS.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidIm not familiar with the passage about killing unbelievers. What is it and how is it being interpeted to not mean to kill the same people now that they were talking about many years ago.
We have already established the 'killing unbelievers' passage has been taken out of context and doesn't call for modern Muslims to go around killing unbelievers. Why are you still peddling this nonsense? - Is it because you have nothing factual to contribute?
@Rajk999 saidThey are still killing their daughters for looking at a boy. Here. in the usa
In several parts of the world Muslims are beheading, raping and murdering Christians, all with the expressed approval of the Quran. I have posted the details already many times. All Muslims have the potential to be murderous. There are no moderates... NONE. I have never once heard or read of any Muslim condemning these attacks and killings. They are silent and like you they make these lame stupid excuses.
@Rajk999 saidHow could this be interpreted to NOT kill?
Thoughtful ?? Its thoughtful to support, defend and make excuses for an evil cult religion that preaches death, rape and pedophilia? You are a sick man. Here are some references from the Quran;
(A) Quran 2:191 “Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.”
(B) Quran 3:28 “Muslims must not take infidels as friends”
(C) Quran 3:85 “Any religion other than I ...[text shortened]... is justifiying this sick, evil religion.
Please continue to reply I have some more stuff to post.
@Rajk999 saidDo you understand the difference between extremists and moderates?
Are there Muslims killing, raping and beheading unbelievers in any part of the world?
Yes?
Does it matter to the victims of these atrocities how many Muslims are NOT killing them?
WTF does that have to do with anything?
Apparently not. This might be the reason you continue to make daft sweeping generalizations.
@AverageJoe1 saidAnyway you spin it, it's still an example of religious intolerance.
That depends, Ghost...on if the thread is a religious topic, or, a political one. I think that it is political. Being a christian, I would not be offended if it were churches instead of mosques, as long as China is accomplishing something against a mutual enemy. A church is a meeting place, GHod is not in there, I'm cool witih it.
It is political..
Very peculiar that an atheist like myself would recognise this and not a Christian.