@moonbus saidYou can blame anyone you want, as many will blame you, the point is that we are all acknowledging things are being done wrong. This means we are not only saying that but admitting we and they should know better. That there is a standard of "right and wrong" that applies to us all equally, we just think others are doing it far worse than we are.
Acknowledging that the other side represents legitimate interests is the first step towards reaching a consensus solution everyone can sign onto in good faith. Slagging the other side off as simply wrong and not worthy negotiating partners is the high road to a country which lurches from one extreme to the other, depending on which side is in power.
I blame the Tea Party a ...[text shortened]... to end democracy, though for different reasons. It's an unholy alliance, Trump and Evangelicals ...
I'm not a Trump apologist someone else can defend him, he most certainly has his detractors on both sides of the aisle which is one thing I like about him. Unlike Biden his side defends him regardless of what is going on, it is a very rare thing the Democrats hold his feet to the fire, they should simply call him Democrat Joe, instead of all the insulting nicknames I hear.
Strange you are using words like holy and good faith.
@KellyJay saidIn a pluralistic democracy, trying to ram things down other people's throats is definitely the wrong way to go about getting what you want. A willingness to cooperate, to negotiate, and to give and take, is essential. This willingness is markedly lacking in the radical right faction of the GOP, and no more obvious than when one member of Congress pulls the rug out from under the Speaker simply because the Speaker got support from the other side of the House for a finance bill. That is not governing in good faith with the consent of the governed -- that is trying to rule like a king, by ramming things down people's throats. Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene are the primary culprits there.
You can blame anyone you want, as many will blame you, the point is that we are all acknowledging things are being done wrong. This means we are not only saying that but admitting we and they should know better. That there is a standard of "right and wrong" that applies to us all equally, we just think others are doing it far worse than we are.
I'm not a Trump apologist ...[text shortened]... tead of all the insulting nicknames I hear.
Strange you are using words like holy and good faith.
Trump is no Christian, he even mocks Christians in private, and Evangelicals know that. Their alliance with him is an unholy pact with the devil, figuratively speaking.
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@moonbus saidDo you honestly think demanding pronouns is also not doing that? We are flawed people condemning someone else's faults while being blind to our own only adds to the strife. The guilt we all carry is because we scream bloody murder over things we are also doing, demanding a conforming to some ideology or accepting some point of view and belittling those not part of our "herd" simply separates us and keeps us at each other's throats. If the umbrella that is humanity isn't embracing the whole, treating the whole in the same way as each part deserves, then we are doing nothing but judging certain segments seeing them as less than, we are only looking for some justification to call someone other.
In a pluralistic democracy, trying to ram things down other people's throats is definitely the wrong way to go about getting what you want. A willingness to cooperate, to negotiate, and to give and take, is essential. This willingness is markedly lacking in the radical right faction of the GOP, and no more obvious than when one member of Congress pulls the rug out from under ...[text shortened]... elicals know that. Their alliance with him is an unholy pact with the devil, figuratively speaking.
@KellyJay
So you don't care if we get into a nuclear war and besides offing most humans we off most of life on Earth for the other animals on Earth.
Why wouldn't your god have stopped research on atomic weapons, the world would be safer now if it had done that early on.
You say your god invented Earth and life on it so it must love the life on Earth as well as humans so why would it allow us to destroy it?
@sonhouse saidThere is an appointed time for all of us to die, are we any more dead in a nuclear explosion than if we die in our sleep? In this world we see the evil we do, we build things to end life, we celebrate the taking of life in the womb as if that were a right, we rob, steal, murder, rape, and we do these things because we want to, this is the world of our own making.
@KellyJay
So you don't care if we get into a nuclear war and besides offing most humans we off most of life on Earth for the other animals on Earth.
Why wouldn't your god have stopped research on atomic weapons, the world would be safer now if it had done that early on.
You say your god invented Earth and life on it so it must love the life on Earth as well as humans so why would it allow us to destroy it?
We were given the ability to make choices and you see the things we are doing with that ability, it isn't pretty, or lovely, and neither does it make us safe. We clammer on and on about being free to do what we will, and that leads only to anarchy where it isn't safe to walk the streets because in a lawless society, everyone does what they want when they want no matter the cost to anyone else.
People fail to realize constraints are what makes anything able to work and live together, a free-from-constraint individual would be someone floating in space, they couldn't move from one point to another if they wanted to with nothing to push off from.
@KellyJay saidCertainly there are more pressing issues than pronouns.
Do you honestly think demanding pronouns is also not doing that? We are flawed people condemning someone else's faults while being blind to our own only adds to the strife. The guilt we all carry is because we scream bloody murder over things we are also doing, demanding a conforming to some ideology or accepting some point of view and belittling those not part of our "her ...[text shortened]... segments seeing them as less than, we are only looking for some justification to call someone other.
@sonhouse saidDo you know why the redhotpawn god created the spirituality board sunstroker? That's to take your god bothering there.
@KellyJay
So you don't care if we get into a nuclear war and besides offing most humans we off most of life on Earth for the other animals on Earth.
Why wouldn't your god have stopped research on atomic weapons, the world would be safer now if it had done that early on.
You say your god invented Earth and life on it so it must love the life on Earth as well as humans so why would it allow us to destroy it?
And when the redhotpawn god creates a special board for those with Trump Derangement Syndrome that will be the end of you around here, you can go there with your buddies; suzidud, the bamboozle brothers, zahlooney and kev. You can have shag pseudy for brains too.
@shavixmir
Well OF COURSE, didn't you know God is MALE, so he has to have female gods around so it can reproduce. DUH, you didn't know that?🙂
@KellyJay
This is a most disturbing philosophy, not caring about the ACTUAL place we live in because you are deeply duped about a supposed second life in some heaven (or hell, all made up by religions) that humans are WAY above all other life forms on the planet so much so a god want's SOME of those folks to permanently worship this god presumably because of a flagging ego of said god who NEEDS humans to adore it.
Like a human NEEDING adoration from his ant colony.