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Homosexual Acts and the Categorical Imperative

Homosexual Acts and the Categorical Imperative

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Originally posted by lucifershammer
Homosexual activity violates the first formulation of the Categorical Imperative and is, therefore, unethical in [Kantian] deontological ethics theory. Debate.
Why have you picked on homosexuality in particular. If you are correct then surely having sex with women would similarly violate the same law as it would result in homosexual behaviour amongst women?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage


What is "homosexual activity"?[/b]
Sodomy or buggery.

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For clarity, I think Kant did mention same-sex sex. And I think he saw it as wrong, for roughly the reasons LH said; but not because the idea was _logically_ contradictory. Rather that it was (roughly) against our nature.

Someone can look this up or we can wait for BBarr, but my first point remains: who really cares what Kant says about ethics?

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Originally posted by lucifershammer
Why not?

If for instance, one has a perfect duty not to steal because the maxim "It is permissible to steal" cannot be universalised (because it would destroy the concept of property), then it would seem to follow that one has a perfect duty not to engage in homosexual activity because the universalisation of homosexual activity would make the huma ...[text shortened]... ery least) of whether it is permissible for a person not to engage in procreative sex.
The universalization of homosexual activity merely means that everyone is free to participate in such activity should they so choose. It does not mean that they are obligated to do so, wether exclusively or at all. As most people will continue to decline the opportunity, the human race is in no great peril.

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Originally posted by Nargaguna
Sodomy or buggery.
By that limited definition, a man having anal sex with a woman would be indulging in homosexual activity.

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Originally posted by dottewell
Someone can look this up or we can wait for BBarr, but my first point remains: who really cares what Kant says about ethics?
"Waiting for BBarr"--coming soon to a cinema near you.

You're right, I don't really care about Kant's views on ethics. He's no fun to read at all.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
"Waiting for BBarr"--coming soon to a cinema near you.

You're right, I don't really care about Kant's views on ethics. He's no fun to read at all.
Did you know a fair few German philosophy students read Kant in translated English?

Apparantly the original German is even harder to read.

(I'd be quite surprised, and scared, if someone said: "I think the Holocaust was wrong because when we try to frame it as a universal law, it proves contradictory".)

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Please elaborate on how eroticism violates the first formulation of the categorical imperative.
Pleas elaborate on how the catagorical imperative and its first formulation is relevant to eroticism 🙂

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Originally posted by dags
Pleas elaborate on how the catagorical imperative and its first formulation is relevant to eroticism 🙂
Too-shay 🙂

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
By that limited definition, a man having anal sex with a woman would be indulging in homosexual activity.
See the OED for the legal definition of a bugger.

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Originally posted by Nargaguna
See the OED for the legal definition of a bugger.
He's still right.

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Originally posted by darvlay
He's still right.
It can't be 'homo' by definition but still the wrong hole!
My OED does not mention women in this context but refers only to "man or beast". Take your pick.

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Originally posted by Nargaguna
It can't be 'homo' by definition but still the wrong hole!
My OED does not mention women in this context but refers only to "man or beast". Take your pick.
Between man and beast?

Tricky...

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Originally posted by dottewell
Between man and beast?

Tricky...
Careful Dot! What would Kant say?

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Originally posted by darvlay
Careful Dot! What would Kant say?
Too late! I've already chosen.

I'm going for a good-looking aardvark.