@AThousandYoung saidI guess thats the fault of the legal system. No legal system is perfect and if one man escapes the law, that is never justification for someone else to escape as well. It does not work like that, and no amount of Democrats and their supporters pointing out the flaws and failing of Trump means others can do the same. Its a stupid comment.
Rich white men get free passes to be criminals if they are running for President.
@Rajk999 saidI'm not saying that because Trump got away with crime, immigrants should too.
I guess thats the fault of the legal system. No legal system is perfect and if one man escapes the law, that is never justification for someone else to escape as well. It does not work like that, and no amount of Democrats and their supporters pointing out the flaws and failing of Trump means others can do the same. Its a stupid comment.
I'm saying a known criminal is the one running this program and because of that we need to be very careful about defending it in the name of law and order.
@KingDavid403 saidWorthless? Homeland Security has stopped invading alien illegals from coming into our living rooms.
One parent was legal and one was not. They deported the illegal one and took the US citizen baby with the illegal one and deported those two. The parents attempted to leave the baby with the legal parent, but to no avail; all thanks to Trump and his worthless pos Homeland Security.
King, do you think that Trump should NOT regulate the flow of foreigners at our border? That is a yes or no question. One of the toughest for sure, I know. Give it a try.
I see your people are all on the street once again, daily it seems, with those mega bullhorns about something that they don't like. Some judge broke a law, arrested, but y'all are saying she and he did NOT break the law, when they DID break the law. It is a good example of why we conservatives have a difficult time on debating with your nonsense.
Hey, where can I get one of those street bullhorns, so that I can scream out. to everyone who will listen,. what I, AvJoe, thinks!!! Do they only sell those things to liberals??
@AThousandYoung saidDo you have one of those bullhorns? Just curious.
I'm not saying that because Trump got away with crime, immigrants should too.
I'm saying a known criminal is the one running this program and because of that we need to be very careful about defending it in the name of law and order.
@AThousandYoung saidGotta go. We are going to storm a town hall meeting (Mike Lawler MNyack NY) and go on the stage to tear up one of their baannnnnnnnnneeerrs.
Rich white men get free passes to be criminals if they are running for President.
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@Cliff-Mashburn saidI'll wait for the hearing for further details, but I doubt that "abandoning" her child was the only option besides bringing her back to a country the woman fled.
Riiight...the mother just wants to abandon her 4-year-old and go back home....riiiiight.
EDIT: The Father had executed a Provisional Custody by Mandate, a document under Louisiana law which "is a way for a child's parents or other legally qualified people to name another person to give "care, custody and control" of a minor child." https://lasc.libguides.com/c.php?g=463987&p=3171820
This document was executed before XML's (the citizen in question) removal to Honduras.
@AverageJoe1 saidHey, where can I get one of those street bullhorns, so that I can scream out. to everyone who will listen,. what I, AvJoe, thinks!!! Do they only sell those things to liberals??
Worthless? Homeland Security has stopped invading alien illegals from coming into our living rooms.
King, do you think that Trump should NOT regulate the flow of foreigners at our border? That is a yes or no question. One of the toughest for sure, I know. Give it a try.
I see your people are all on the street once again, daily it seems, with those mega bul ...[text shortened]... o everyone who will listen,. what I, AvJoe, thinks!!! Do they only sell those things to liberals??
Goggle "blowhorns for sale." Geee that was tough. 😆
Worthless?
Yes.
Some judge broke a law, arrested, but y'all are saying she and he did NOT break the law, when they DID break the law.
Kind of like your worthless criminal President with his 34 felonies that include sexual assaults and abuse? Furthermore, she (the judge) did NOT break any laws by pointing to a door for someone to exit; period lying loser.
I kicked homeland security out of my apartment building because they didn't have a warrant. 100% completely legal to do so; and, I don't have to help them one bit with ANYTHING that I don't want too.
It is a good example of why we conservatives have a difficult time on debating with your nonsense.
The only reason you have a hard time debating me, is because you're a liar just as you worthless pos president and his worthless administration; and, I and others call you out on your worthless liars non-sense every time.
King, do you think that Trump should NOT regulate the flow of foreigners at our border?
it was and is highly regulated, and has been for decades now. End of story liar. Trump is just a worthless racist liar pos, as most of his worthless administration.
@no1marauder saidHey, you can do this for us. Tell us how unelected judges can make decisions on national matters. Literally overriding matters not within their purview.
I'll wait for the hearing for further details, but I doubt that "abandoning" her child was the only option besides bringing her back to a country the woman fled.
Also, everyone needs to know if these illegals that have a certain constitutional right have all of the same rights that our natural born America citizens have. There are a lot of people here who are so confused.
Good man.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou types seem to prefer business fraud.
Gotta go. We are going to storm a town hall meeting (Mike Lawler MNyack NY) and go on the stage to tear up one of their baannnnnnnnnneeerrs.
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@AverageJoe1 saidIt's a standard, boring tactic of yours to keep asking loaded questions the gist of which have already been answered.
Hey, you can do this for us. Tell us how unelected judges can make decisions on national matters. Literally overriding matters not within their purview.
Also, everyone needs to know if these illegals that have a certain constitutional right have all of the same rights that our natural born America citizens have. There are a lot of people here who are so confused.
Good man.
The "purview" of the Federal judiciary includes all matters regarding the deprivation of rights of anyone present in the US.
You are confused because you keep gullibly accepting the claims of this administration and right wing media which keep insisting that the Founders meant to install another King once someone of the incredible greatness of Donald Trump came around. You will be less confused when you accept that they intended the Constitution to severely limit Executive power.
@no1marauder saidMarauuder is saying, admittedly with another bunch of lib minds, that district judges, who were appointed, not elected, can render decisions which reach farther than the limits of the areas wherein they are allowed to make decisions. Way outside. Decisions which may conflict with those of elected judges..
It's a standard, boring tactic of yours to keep asking loaded questions the gist of which have already been answered.
The "purview" of the Federal judiciary includes all matters regarding the deprivation of rights of anyone present in the US.
You are confused because you keep gullibly accepting the claims of this administration and right wing media which keep insist ...[text shortened]... less confused when you accept that they intended the Constitution to severely limit Executive power.
Hmmmm, so their reasoning can affect reasoning of judges (the minds and reasoning of which) who were elected by the people. Hmmmmm
He did not like my use of the word purview, he is probably right. My mind races almost a fast as that of Trump. I do wish he would slow down, but it has done him well for about 60 years.
We were sitting aroiund after dinner and someone asked who of Biden and Trump would you want to negotiate a business matter, or anything, for you.
We have two libs, who I love , in the group. They really hemed and hawed.
Guess who posed the question!!!
@AverageJoe1 saidTHEY ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS YOU DOLT. THEY ARE CHILDREN AND one with CANCER. WITH NO DUE PROCESS, THIS IS CHILD KIDNAPPING.
Just stating a fact, it will ruffle your feathers, I’m not weighing in on your obvious very clear point….they being children……BUT y’all keep bringing up phrases in the Constitution. I see no phrase in the constitution that puts any limit on the age of people who are deported.
I rest my case.
PURE AND SIMPLE.
What the FUUK is wrong with you?
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@sonhouse saidThe baby was not deported, man. He was taken away with the mother, her choice. Sonhouse, there should have been a hearing, no question, (This means that we have to have 12Million hearings....Marauder is going to get back to us on that,)
THEY ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS YOU DOLT. THEY ARE CHILDREN AND one with CANCER. WITH NO DUE PROCESS, THIS IS CHILD KIDNAPPING.
PURE AND SIMPLE.
What the FUUK is wrong with you?
But the parents should have thought of this, and they have a choice to bring the children with them or leave them here. Sonhouse, all of your posts make such situations appear to be our doing. Your premise is a 'catch 22', it begins by suggesting that we are the guilty party. Then you make it worse by saying kidnapping......look up the definition of kidnapping, please re-write your post, where you stipulate that mother was here illegally. , and we can talk about it. Geez.
Of course, you could say what you are really thinking, that, the family be allowed to stay here. But, then, all 12 Million should be allowed to stay here.
I would love to hear what you think should happen.
@no1marauder saidYeah, the constitution meant for APPOINTED judges to run the country
It's a standard, boring tactic of yours to keep asking loaded questions the gist of which have already been answered.
The "purview" of the Federal judiciary includes all matters regarding the deprivation of rights of anyone present in the US.
You are confused because you keep gullibly accepting the claims of this administration and right wing media which keep insist ...[text shortened]... less confused when you accept that they intended the Constitution to severely limit Executive power.
@sonhouse saidHere is the truth
THEY ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS YOU DOLT. THEY ARE CHILDREN AND one with CANCER. WITH NO DUE PROCESS, THIS IS CHILD KIDNAPPING.
PURE AND SIMPLE.
What the FUUK is wrong with you?
- the mother is not an American citizen
- she was in the US illegally
- She alone was deported.
- She decided to take the child with her.
The press got hold of the story and twisted it around because dramaqueen people like you, enjoy these kind of twisted rubbish stories. There are hundreds of babies that are American citizens and their parents ahve to leave because they are illegal. When they are caught they leave quietly. It is only because it is Trump, the story turns into a national headline. This goes on all the time.
There is something in US Immigration Law called Expedited removal ... It is a process in U.S. immigration law that allows immigration authorities to quickly deport certain non-citizens without a full hearing or review by an immigration judge or the Board of Immigration Appeals. This process is primarily used for those who are found to be inadmissible, such as those lacking valid entry documents or attempting to enter through fraud.
It is only a complete idiot who wants to see 'due process' for all these removals and deportations. That would take decades, cost billions, waste court time and be a drain on the US economy, while the perpertrator who can be a rapist, murderer, pedophile, continues to live and destroy life for others in America.
Something is wrong with people like you.