@no1marauder saidThen why aren't Palestinians taking advantage of it?
Israel's Right to Return Law has no ethnic component.https://www.nbn.org.il/life-in-israel/government-services/rights-and-benefits/the-law-of-return/
@sh76 saidIf Mormons when they were a tiny minority insisted they had a God given right to rule over an area despite the wishes of the majority they might expect a hostile reaction.
If the non-Mormons of Utah were unwilling to let the Mormons live in peace and interfered with their self-determination and constantly treated them as second class citizens, they would also be entitled to their own autonomy.
@no1marauder saidAs I said, Jews are an ethnic group. The first sentence of that link reads:
Israel's Right to Return Law has no ethnic component.https://www.nbn.org.il/life-in-israel/government-services/rights-and-benefits/the-law-of-return/
The Law of Return, granting every Jew in the world the right to settle in Israel, was passed by the Knesset on July 5, 1950, and published in Sefer HaChukkim (Book of Laws) No. 51, p. 159.
Your claim is thus disproven.
@AThousandYoung saidDid Arabs living in Jewish territory lose their rights to their property?
The people living in the places had natural property rights that outweigh any such ivory tower legalistic argument.
@AThousandYoung saidA) Very few are of the Jewish Faith;
Then why aren't Palestinians taking advantage of it?
B) They'd be excluded as threats to Israel's security.
@Sleepyguy saidI don't necessarily blame you. I felt somewhat similar with regards to the Hutus vs. Tutsi and Serbs vs. the Croats and, of course, the Hindus vs. the Muslims in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
No disrespect intended at all, but I'm honestly past caring. I've been following this forum (against my better judgement) for 18 years now. How many people have died over the Israel vs. Palestine conflict during that time? All the arguments and talking points are worn smooth like stones rolling in a river. I just want one side to lose so the world can move on and people will stop killing each other over it.
If I were a Hutu or a Tutsi or a Serb or a Croat or a South Asian Hindu or a Muslim, I wouldn't have that luxury.
I also think that most people don't fundamentally give a damn about most of these constant wars/feuds/struggles. For some reason, Israel is the exception.
@no1marauder saidThe Right of Return does not require a person to have the Jewish Faith.
A) Very few are of the Jewish Faith;
B) They'd be excluded as threats to Israel's security.
@no1marauder saidMost Israelis, and certainly Israeli governments, and even more so, the initial Israeli governments, were entirely secular and didn't believe in God, let alone assert a God given right to anything.
If Mormons when they were a tiny minority insisted they had a God given right to rule over an area despite the wishes of the majority they might expect a hostile reaction.
@Rajk999 saidYes, when Israel conquered Ashdod and Ashkelon.
Did Arabs living in Jewish territory lose their rights to their property?
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@AThousandYoung saidWhen the world insists on giving me the key to my grandfather's his parents' house in Berlin and, I'll look more favorably on the demand that Gazans have the right to move 40 miles up the road to Ashkelon.
Yes, when Israel conquered Ashdod and Ashkelon.
The demand that people who grandparents were displaced 8 decades ago have the right to return is unique to Israel.
@sh76 saidYou traded that key for the keys to Judah. Notice I have always supported Israel's claim to the West Bank.
When the world insists on giving me the key to my grandfather's his parents' house in Berlin and, I'll look more favorably on the demand that Gazans have the right to move 40 miles up the road to Ashkelon.
The demand that people displaced 8 decades ago have the right to return is unique to Israel.
@AThousandYoung saidAshdod and Ashkelon according to the Geneva Convention is what is called 'Disputed Territory'. This is one of the consequences of starting a war. You dont refuse a UN partition, then start a war and then claim you lost your land. Palestine fell under the British Empire and Arabs had to abide by the decisions taken by the British.
Yes, when Israel conquered Ashdod and Ashkelon.
@AThousandYoung saidI didn't trade anything. And I don't think Israel has any inherent right to anything in the West Bank. And I never buy the God-given right crap in any context. Even to the extent that I am religious, I don't believe in projecting any belief system on others.
You traded that key for the keys to Judah. Notice I have always supported Israel's claim to the West Bank.
My point is only that historical displacement of one's ancestors has never been a legitimate claim to territory.